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[petition] Graf Zeppelin need repair party and BB hull

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NO MORE 3x5 TORPEDO BOMBER???? who need 7800 HE 3x5 divebomber??

- secondary from 4.5 to 7.5

- still crap fighter.....

 

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okay here we go, i am waiting the Graf Zep since playing CV. and if WG turn Graf into crap T6 CV in T8, absolutely like Enterprise..... it will be Ultimate CRAP.

as you know, Enterprise actually have T7.5 plane not T7..... why? because enterprise got access for T9 upgrade like +5 max speed or 15% bomber HP. even with those upgrade, Enterprise still cannt surpass Shokaku in term of air supremacy (but win in strike). looking for leaked stat, fighter and bomber HP of Graf is so CRAP, it can be destroyed easily by ship AA.... well, i must agree if WG not try to make Graf Zep OP by giving 3x5 TB. but, 3x5 DB is SO WEAK, Shokaku and enterprise got better plane, loadout and strike capabilities.....

 

so if Enterprise got T9 upgrade, why not give Graf Zeppelin :

 

- Special secondary upgrade, if normal secondary upgrade increase by 20%, it GOT 40% instead :V

- access to special repair party, like the RNCA

- lower concealment....13km??

- 3/0/2 loadout instead, more fighter less bomber, so Graf will be focused on providing AA support (its fighter is weak anyway, 3 fighter is balanced)

- thicker belt and deck armor (optional), also turtleback armor (muss) like other German BB 

- of course, 9km Hydrocaustic search (optional)

- 8x4 side torpedo 12km 2 min reload

- 20 sec reload DCP (duration 30 sec)

- 8 sec, torpedo reload booster

- smoke consummable

- can Swap secondary amunition HE or AP

- infinite consummable 40 sec AADF 1 min cooldown

- high arc secondary shell like Lolanta

 

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oh come on! why cannt we have 3x5 torpedo bomber -_-

German BB, DD, and CA got Hydro..... why Graf Zeppelin cannt have Hydro too? its Yolo CV anyway.

and WG should make her unique like in Kan~~~ 11km secondary is not enough 13~14km secondary seems nice

and for mitigating damage when Yolo...... need repair party, like a boss

 

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:fish_glass:

[ alright, i am still mad about 3x5 dive bomber.... why cannt we have 3x5 torpedo bomber? ]

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34 minutes ago, Skarhabek said:

[ alright, i am still mad about 3x5 dive bomber.... why cannt we have 3x5 torpedo bomber? ]

Because everyone was saying that German CV w/o DBs = heresy. 

 

If you want to blame somebody, blame the playerbase. 

 

Edit: Although in all honesty 3x5 TBs was probably a little too strong.

 

Frankly, I am not too sure how competitive GZ will be without TBs. I suppose it could work if she gets really tight dispersion for her bombs.

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7 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

Because everyone was saying that German CV w/o DBs = heresy. 

 

 

CRAAAAP, at least Graf should get 15K~20K HE bomb from Fritz X

300px-Fritz_X_side.jpg

 

Enterprise got AP bomb, 2x5 torpedo bomber, 2 fighter and 96 hangar slot and T7. plane. its still crap againts Shokaku, how about Graf Zeppelin with obviously plane, weak He Bomb, very very weak fighter and only 72 hangar slot? 

 

here we Go

Shokaku >= Enterprise > Lexington (AS) > Graf Zeppelin 

 

Lexington got AP bomb later, stronger fighter and more+1 hangar

 

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alright, secondary focused CV? total 14 km plus repair party.....

now everybody want 14km secondary CV Waifu :v

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16 minutes ago, Skarhabek said:

 

CRAAAAP, at least Graf should get 15K~20K HE bomb from Fritz X

300px-Fritz_X_side.jpg

 

Enterprise got AP bomb, 2x5 torpedo bomber, 2 fighter and 96 hangar slot and T7. plane. its still crap againts Shokaku, how about Graf Zeppelin with obviously plane, weak He Bomb, very very weak fighter and only 72 hangar slot? 

 

here we Go

Shokaku >= Enterprise > Lexington (AS) > Graf Zeppelin 

 

Better than Lexi without AS and 013 Lexi.

 

By the way in my op, premium ships should not surpass same tier's techtree ships. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cutie_Destroyer said:

 

Better than Lexi without AS and 013 Lexi.

 

By the way in my op, premium ships should not surpass same tier's techtree ships. 

 

 

compared to lexington strike, its bomber is SLOW and WEAK... its like T7 plane. instead buffing its plane, WG should make it secondary focused CV. obviously Yolo need repair party and battleship HP. beside, Graf Zeppelin never completed..... it mean no one care if Graf Zeppelin a bit OP in secondary :V

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With the 5x3 torps, semi decent players were easily able to one-shot battleships in one torp salvo. Even with the Iron cross drop pattern, it would be very unpleasant and not very fun for anyone targeted by this carrier. Against good AA many of it's planes would get shredded, but against lower tier ships it's absolutely terrifying. It was situationaly strong before, now with divebombers....??? I mean I dont understand why it was given dive-bombers at all -_- They tend to not be very effective in comparison to torps. I would rather the torps be re-worked, maybe with much greater range but a high arming time:?

I don't really et what WG are trying to do with this carrier, it doesnt seem very appealing to play as or play against.

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Like it suffered from people squabbling about what planes to put on & who controls the planes , in real life..... This is suffering the same lol

 

Also, long range secondaries??? What stupidity... As if anyone would want to waste captain skills for secondaries on a CV .... They would be better off with torpedo planes...

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oh you want Graff become OP CV ?
okay, then give all USN regular tech tree 2x TB (12 planes) with normal Torps pattern..... j and buff all AA cruiser and BB to 70% :Smile_trollface:

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On 8/3/2017 at 0:37 PM, Gesterbein said:

oh you want Graff become OP CV ?
okay, then give all USN regular tech tree 2x TB (12 planes) with normal Torps pattern..... j and buff all AA cruiser and BB to 70% :Smile_trollface:

i think its OK for USN CV have 0/2/2 loadout, beside USN CV will have undodge-able RNG AP bomb. talkng about 2xTB how about enterprise? got 2x5 torp plus AP bomb. and more, it got fighter TOO! so basically Enterprise already have more than 2/3/0 Graf zeppelin strike capabilities.

 

for AA ship buff, u have manual AA there.... any ship with manual AA is AA monster.

On 8/3/2017 at 1:07 PM, 8knots said:

OOT to OP:

How does your account has more upvotes than mine?

i will get more downvote if it exist..... so people just click upvote instead :V

 

On 8/3/2017 at 1:41 PM, _Halcyon said:

[petition] SEA forum needs to remove Sharkbait from any balans discussion

 

Seriously I find the Russians good at balancing ships

slightly OP Graf Zeppelin is better than Crap zeppelin.... 

 

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8 hours ago, Skarhabek said:

CRAAAAP, at least Graf should get 15K~20K HE bomb from Fritz X

Is The Graf Zepelin is going to carry Dornier DO217's or Heinkel HE111's?

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20 minutes ago, Epicurus_ said:

Is The Graf Zepelin is going to carry Dornier DO217's or Heinkel HE111's?

 

Would the deck be long enough for takeoff?

I thought they would've been unsuitable for carriers.

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54 minutes ago, Skarhabek said:
1 hour ago, 8knots said:

OOT to OP:

How does your account has more upvotes than mine?

i will get more downvote if it exist..... so people just click upvote instead :V

I actually laughed at this, but I think they expected the upvote to be replaced by a downvote for your posts automatically so they think they clicked downvote when they actually clicked upvote? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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