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EvyL

RM Andrea Doria

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Been a long while since I've badposted but why not?

 

I've been busy with many things, one of them squeezing time to do stuff in the server where the sun don't shine but that didnt mean I stopped diving for crap.

 

I PRESENT TO YOU THE ANDREA DORIA

 

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GLORIOUS PASTA BATTLESHIP.

 

Well, sort of.

 

When people ask "lol Italy had a gud navy?" at most, you'd probably throw several decent battleships they got during the period and compared to "how to battleship" by other countries, Italy had a rather unique take on how to battleship. one of the beefy periods was the Conte di Cavour, this, and the cancelled Francesco Carraciolo in WW1 and in WW2 the historical peak of their battleship build was the Littorio (or Vittorio Veneto, have what you). This thing, along with the Conte di Cavours, didnt see a lot o runs in WW1 but in the interyear there were a lot of flurries of discussions on how to make this battleship full of hax. About that though....

The battleship was initially the one you'd see in any other dreads of WW1: pudgy, awkward, and carries a bootload of sweet sweet guns although this lumpy battleship along with her sister got a massive facelift in WW2 so you'd be surprised what a little time on the slipway can do to beautify the shit out of a warship, especially an aged battleship.

 

The battleship had a complement of AB-P-XY with turrets A, P and Y being triples of 12 inch/305mm guns and the superfiring B and X turrets ae duals, several 6 inch secondaries, some 3 inch guns and torpedo tubes. YES. TORPEDO TUBES. She was protected with about 9.8 inches (250mm) of belt, 11 inches of turret, about 4 inches of deck and 11 inches of conning tower and the dread could run about 21 kts. Hey don't laugh, by the standards back then it was pretty decent for an Italian dread... but that was IN WW1...

 

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BEHOLD, THE WONDERS OF FACELIFTS. Hard to think that battleship above was the same lumpy dread amirite?

 

Her retrofit made her slightly sleeker and longer, gave her improved engines, lost her tubes, the P turret removed and replaced by the funnels where powerful engines now occupy where the P magazine was before, and her 12 inch guns were rebored and relined to become 12.5 inch/320mm guns. Adding to that, she'd gotten some new hax such as improved rangefinders and a new powerplant as well as Pugliese's system installed aboard her. The belt should be at least 10 inches thick now and adding it with the internal bulkheads, its gonna go on a full 15 inches of relative protection as well as the battleship's ability to run at 26 kts. apart from the 3-2-2-3 arrangement of guns, she got improved dakka in the form of pairs of 135mm/45 guns, single pop shooter 90mm guns, some load of 37mm AA and 20mm close-in AA. I gotta admit, if the Italians decide to beautify the living hell out of a ship, they do it in style.

 

Here's the sweating bullets part: the 320mm had this rather "what in flying f-" level of deviation as a result of simply reboring the living crap out of the barrel and relining it rather than cram it with 15 inch guns as part of its upgrade but the reasoning is that "dude, the magazines cant cram that much shells if we use a bigger caliber". There's also the doubts of the Pugliese as was said in the badpost for Littorio but come what may. Interestingly as well, due to Italy being Italy in the War (OP troops because try facing the Bersaglieri and Alpini in their turf, lol tanks, lulz ships), those ships are rather brow raised if they CAN survive open water instead of the pond they sail in called the Mediterranean (and incidentally, Britain locked them in because Gibraltar lol).

 

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Japan made their dreads look meancing because pagoda mast, the Brits couldnt improve all of them but the Queen Elizabeths were pretty, the Americans compacted their dreads on refit and the Italians made their dreads beautiful yet sort of functional at the same damn time. Naval engineers until this day are still rather wondering about the structural integrity of the lumpy dread and that how this thing was supposed to be inferior to the British battleships she had to face.

 

She was present during 1912 as a blocker because the Regia Marina were susceptible to surprise torpedo boat attacks from their enemies and had the battleship be in a visible spot to deter scumbags carrying balanced lances in a relative safe position, had half her crew acquire the "borrowed" German ships and plastered a rebellious destroyer which didnt raise the proud ensign of the Regia Marina in alliance to the government and shelled a land installation because the commander of the rebellion camping in Fiume was there. Oh and it was during this time Croatia was emerging to become a nation by themselves as well as Slovenia (for the references I'm talking about, refer to my Littorio badpost about why the names of all four Zara cruisers don't belong to Italian lands. Light cruisers were named after OP people in Italian history, one of such example you all know (and love?) is the cruiser Duca d'Aosta which came from the general and noble Emanuele Filiberto of Savoy, 2nd Duke of Aosta. oh and a bonus: the Germans too had an OP person who shares the name with an Admiral Hipper, Prince Eugene of Savoy, better known as Prinz Eugen der Savoyen)

so the Italians were having a field day, some more cruisers and finally stopped at a slipway for her planned refit and maintenance. She had a relatively peaceful tenure in the slipway...

 

... until WW2 broke out because Hitler's steamroll.

 

The ship is one of the lucky skubs that survived the Raid at Taranto (which the Japanese used as a basis for their "its just a prank bro" surprise attack at Pearl) where she had to run away when shit was falling in the sky and torpedoes were in the water. She was also participating as an interdiction ship since in the Med, its getting to the part of "pin the bomb and torpedo on the convoy ship" where she was participant during the First Battle of Sirte where she, alongside Giulio Cesare and Littorio, got in there to respond because the Brits apparently forgot to play minesweeper and the Italians were spamming a lot of them, all the while playing the convoy game of who hits who. The result was inconclusive, the Italians blasting the shit out of a couple of British ships but it wasn't a tactical or strategic win, just one of the whole mess of combat. During an escort, however, like a true old lady that sprained her back her systems went derp and she went back to port where she could only stay because fuel issues. She got interned at Malta, was on a goodwill mission postwar and met her fate by scrapping.

 

I expect the ship to be one of the modular battleships out there (I would like to make it clear that a modular battleship will NEVER BE GODDAMN OP. EVER) since stock you get THIRTEEN guns which is one less barrel than Fuso and New Mexico while maintaining broadside weight on stock hull... although I doubt you can even soak damage like a typical battleship because belt lol. the improved hull will be the same thing that happens as Furutaka which drastically improves a lot on her like gun handling and speed because 26 kts lol. maximum range at stock will likely be 15km, upgraded range will be 17.8km and dispersion will probably screw you over a lot but the shells will be fast as the Italian guns, especially the muzzle velocity on the Littorio's own 15 inch guns, lobs the shell at nearly 920ms at the expense of wearing the barrel very quickly although I expect her MV to lob shells at 860 ms.

 

Derp.exe is over.

Edited by EvyL

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Beta Tester
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Love your write ups.

All the Italian BB's are fantastic looking - must be the combination of the camo grey patterns and the candy cane stripes :)

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this beautiful ship

She was paid off on 16 September 1956, after serving in the Italian Navy for over 40 years. She was formally stricken from the naval register on 1 November and subsequently broken up for scrap in La Spezia

 

Edited by Tiania2

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Italians had some of the most beautiful ships during WW2, if they had radar and AA to match they would have been an absolute menace

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3 hours ago, Commander_Dusty said:

Italians had some of the most beautiful ships during WW2, if they had radar and AA to match they would have been an absolute menace

Its a shame they had to rely on star shells for night combat. The Bredas were decent enough but without a director, the best they could do is intense AA fire.

 

The only thing limiting the Italians afaik is the fact the Brits made the Med their own personal pond and only the Russians were eager to talk to them about how2ship.

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