19 [ROGUE] Ranork Beta Tester 76 posts 11,257 battles Report post #1 Posted July 7, 2017 Well there I was top tier in my Bismark, full HP and then a single attack from the SBD-5's rom the newly introduce CV Enterprise and wham x2 fires and get this 69,850 damage from 9 bomb strikes! Game over for me. P2W or what gg WG well played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [ANZMC] Dire_Venom Member 112 posts 2,646 battles Report post #2 Posted July 7, 2017 Wow thats a couple of citidals. Tell me, were you moving at the time:? Stationary:/ Turning:? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19 [ROGUE] Ranork Beta Tester 76 posts 11,257 battles Report post #3 Posted July 7, 2017 At full speed and turning. Bow on to incoming and fighter airborne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,245 [AUSNZ] Moggytwo Beta Tester 1,553 posts 12,510 battles Report post #4 Posted July 7, 2017 If it's a nail in the coffin of BB's, it's the very first nail, and the BB didn't actually get in it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 [SLAVA] icy_phoenix Super Tester_ 7,897 posts 12,050 battles Report post #5 Posted July 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ranork said: At full speed and turning. Bow on to incoming and fighter airborne. Never bow in to dive bombers. That's the worst possible thing to do against DBs. Bow in to TBs, show side to DBs. Also KM BBs are weak vs DBs, not every BB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,621 [REPOI] EULA_violator [REPOI] Member 6,808 posts 29,299 battles Report post #6 Posted July 7, 2017 it's the first nail used in building the sides of the coffin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [ANZMC] Dire_Venom Member 112 posts 2,646 battles Report post #7 Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Huh thats odd, they are only suposed to be a counter to slow, bow on gameplay, If your doing a full turn at speed most of them should have missed -_- Will everyone have to fully spec for AA now and go on a hate crusade vs CV's??? HE bombs are midly effective vs DDs, but hard to hit. AP bombs should be the same vs BB's, making them able to oneshot a BB is pretty ridiculous, no other ship could one-shot a BB like that (except ramming, or 1km torps). I've also heard that the Germans armour layout makes them particualy vunrable to these bombs, but considering they are meant to be a brawling BB line this significantly de-values them. This will onyl encourage long range sniping, try to push in a BB (especialy German which are built around pushing) and expect to recive 6x citiadal hits from the air -_- Edited July 7, 2017 by Dire_Venom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
223 [BOTES] PunishedKAsual Modder 611 posts 4,500 battles Report post #8 Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dire_Venom said: This will onyl encourage long range sniping, try to push in a BB (especialy German which are built around pushing) and expect to recive 6x citiadal hits from the air -_- I donlt quite see the pattern here. How would that encourage long range sniping when AP bomb is effective regardless of where you position? Edited July 7, 2017 by 9mm1n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
719 [GS] Onlinegamer Video Contributor, Beta Tester, Clantest Coordinator 2,911 posts 14,847 battles Report post #9 Posted July 7, 2017 http://imgur.com/a/1JGYk take a look this how AP bomb works some pic are missed but do not care what that pic missed pls look at last damage do warship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 [SLAVA] icy_phoenix Super Tester_ 7,897 posts 12,050 battles Report post #10 Posted July 7, 2017 Just now, 9mm1n said: I dont quite see the pattern here. How would that encourage long range sniping when AP bomb is effective regardless of where you position? Probably he meant that CVs will be more interested on ships nearby caps than the ones far back. But I think this event is insignificant in the grand picture. A Shokaku can kill a full HP Bismarck in one go. I don't see the problem. Specially when OP made it easier by staying bow in to DBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 [MALD] Adm_Kunkka Member 456 posts 10,958 battles Report post #11 Posted July 7, 2017 Wait AP bomb can cause fires??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
270 [LEAK] Nekrosmas Beta Tester 2,718 posts 2,030 battles Report post #12 Posted July 7, 2017 1. Enterprise AP bomb is pretty BS. 2. BB is far from weak. 3. Git Gud and start evading. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
83 [VEU] IndyChanKawaii Member 387 posts 16,785 battles Report post #13 Posted July 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Adm_Kunkka said: Wait AP bomb can cause fires??? Same question here. Why do some people have to lie in their rant posts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
136 SZYZWY Member 784 posts 4,858 battles Report post #14 Posted July 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Ranork said: Well there I was top tier in my Bismark, full HP and then a single attack from the SBD-5's rom the newly introduce CV Enterprise and wham x2 fires and get this 69,850 damage from 9 bomb strikes! Game over for me. P2W or what gg WG well played. >69,850 damage to a Bismarck with a Top hull of 69, 200 (unless you have SE which I have another thing to say) >x2 fires to "new" AP bombs which don't even cause fires >69,850 damage, from 9 bomb hits that do a maximum of 8000 damage which mathematically add up to a potential 72,000 damage. So 9 citadel hits? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
127 [1-ATF] MyNameBiku Beta Tester 908 posts 4,732 battles Report post #15 Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Well, have enough support to deter your enemies from choosing you as the target. Doesn't change the fact that 70k damage from 9 bomb strikes is definitely too big a number, so WG definitely has to reconsider. Edit: I look at the screenies @Onlinegamer sent. The numbers in there are pretty reasonable given how CV has a much longer reload time. Basically, AP bombs vs BB AP = no counter vs DPM Edited July 7, 2017 by FishyPower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [REPOI] Phat_Cat Member 372 posts 13,583 battles Report post #16 Posted July 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, FishyPower said: Well, have enough support to deter your enemies from choosing you as the target. Doesn't change the fact that 70k damage from 9 bomb strikes is definitely too big a number, so WG definitely has to reconsider. Edit: I look at the screenies @Onlinegamer sent. The numbers in there are pretty reasonable given how CV has a much longer reload time. Basically, AP bombs vs BB AP = no counter vs DPM Bismarck, tirpitz and fuso get demolished but most other bbs are fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 [BLUMR] AkiDucky Member 193 posts 5,470 battles Report post #17 Posted July 7, 2017 At least I can exit my izumo faster with enterprise in the game. Already owned izumo for 5 months, still fully stock. At least now I can start an Iowa game before I get tired of the game again tnx to izumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #18 Posted July 7, 2017 WT mango ! idiot game design . No wonder losing players and combining countries . Mango the game. mango the admin who sanction me . Mango the game developer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
127 [1-ATF] MyNameBiku Beta Tester 908 posts 4,732 battles Report post #19 Posted July 7, 2017 4 hours ago, WongSongMing said: Bismarck, tirpitz and fuso get demolished but most other bbs are fine. Kind of surprising given how CV was made to counter camping BBs and the Bismarck and Tirpitz are the least campy High Tier BBs I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 [SLAVA] icy_phoenix Super Tester_ 7,897 posts 12,050 battles Report post #20 Posted July 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, FishyPower said: Kind of surprising given how CV was made to counter camping BBs and the Bismarck and Tirpitz are the least campy High Tier BBs I know. You are wrong. Ships are not campy. Players are. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
127 [1-ATF] MyNameBiku Beta Tester 908 posts 4,732 battles Report post #21 Posted July 7, 2017 1 minute ago, icy_phoenix said: You are wrong. Ships are not campy. Players are. Yeah, true. But these boats are meant to be brawlers with the quick turret traverse, and good secondaries am I not right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [REPOI] Phat_Cat Member 372 posts 13,583 battles Report post #22 Posted July 7, 2017 4 hours ago, FishyPower said: Yeah, true. But these boats are meant to be brawlers with the quick turret traverse, and good secondaries am I not right. Yes, meanwhile campers like Yamato only eat 10-20k dmg from AP bombs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
164 [POI] Darkworld_2015 Member 973 posts 11,277 battles Report post #23 Posted July 7, 2017 Less brawling BB, more camping BB as enterprise make players less likely to bring in Bismarck/Tirpitz? :P Well, it actually affects me when I first heard the introduction of AP bombs in CV. I put more time and effort on Montana instead of GK, though I personally love GK more for her capability of pushing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,408 AntifoulAwl ∞ Alpha Tester 2,289 posts 8,802 battles Report post #24 Posted July 7, 2017 There is a reason why there are no battleships anymore. Real life= Battleships made obsolete by air power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
137 [REPOI] stratmania Super Tester_ 1,073 posts 15,974 battles Report post #25 Posted July 8, 2017 13 hours ago, SZYZWY said: >69,850 damage to a Bismarck with a Top hull of 69, 200 (unless you have SE which I have another thing to say) >x2 fires to "new" AP bombs which don't even cause fires >69,850 damage, from 9 bomb hits that do a maximum of 8000 damage which mathematically add up to a potential 72,000 damage. So 9 citadel hits? Yeah.... thats some fishy shit right there. Still, even if it were true, what happened there was that a braindead ship whacked another braindead ship. DEAL WITH IT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
