Cleve Capt

[AntifoulAwl]

Okay guys, I can't decide on 4th skill for Clevelands' commander. 

 

 

What have you found to be successful or atrocious?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks. 

 

 

[icy_phoenix]

IFHE on 10th, CE on 14th.

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

One thing I was never truly convinced about with my captain was giving him IFHE.

[AntifoulAwl]

Yeah, the IFHE is in the final running, but more AA would be nice.

And concealment?

Why can't I have all three??

[Onlinegamer]

IFHE AFT MAA

RIP CV RIP BB RIP everything

become cheatland again 

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

Alpha Cheatland was the one true cheatland......Nothing compares.

[Skarhabek]

pick AFT and manual AA and Concealment.....

 

or pick whatever else..... after that shout to everyone i dont have AA build :V

"CV please dont attack me, i have AA build. i am not lie"

now enemy CV is confused if you are AA build or not

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

I generally run mine for DFAA but I'm not sure how many CV I will see in ranked.  maybe Hydro is a better choice?

[AntifoulAwl]

Not sure if im gonna played ranked or not... only had two battles so far.

What got me started playing Cleve again was the operations. Before that, she was mothballed up since the capt skills rework a few months ago.

 

 

14 minutes ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

I generally run mine for DFAA but I'm not sure how many CV I will see in ranked.  maybe Hydro is a better choice?

 I run with Hydro.

[jagdtiger88]

what??!! why'd you run hydro with current shark CV infested waters ?!

go back home and change to DFAA PRONTO!!!!

you're doing it wrong bro!!! 

if CV is extinct once more, then equip hydro!!!

[AntifoulAwl]

2 minutes ago, blacknoheart said:

what??!! why'd you run hydro with current shark CV infested waters ?!

go back home and change to DFAA PRONTO!!!!

you're doing it wrong bro!!! 

if CV is extinct once more, then equip hydro!!!

 

Sir! Yes Sir! 

[S4pp3R]

I don't have a Cleveland however I can tell you that you shouldn't be in range to use hydro most of the time, not with the saturation of BBs.

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

Randoms needs DFAA fore sure.  I was talking abound ranked.  I had DD's doing some real aggressive moves last night and hydro probably would have helped.  

[ellofiend]

12 hours ago, Skarhabek said:

pick AFT and manual AA and Concealment.....

 

or pick whatever else..... after that shout to everyone i dont have AA build :V

"CV please dont attack me, i have AA build. i am not lie"

now enemy CV is confused if you are AA build or not

The cv is confused at the start, no? don't bother with aa, cv's will stay away from clevelands no-matter what so just clip on some hydro or Concealment or IFHE But probably not RPF. IFHE will let you pen the bow and stern of T7 bb's (pen value with IFHE is 33mm's rounded from 32.9) when you previously could not. But then again this does lower your fire chance so it really does depend on whether you would rather creep around delivering shells to unexpecting destroyers or be an anti-aa escort ship or with IFHE you could sit behind mountains letting the havoc break out on the decks of colorados, nagatos and gneisenaus, it depends on your play style.

Regards Elmo

edit: once you have fully saturated the bow/stern of the BB then you cannot do any more damage so might want to think that through (apart from ss) but you cannot citadel so hmmm

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

Fly India X-ray and Victor Lima flags as well........because.

 

 

[AntifoulAwl]

11 hours ago, ellofiend said:

The cv is confused at the start, no? don't bother with aa, cv's will stay away from clevelands no-matter what so just clip on some hydro or Concealment or IFHE But probably not RPF. IFHE will let you pen the bow and stern of T7 bb's (pen value with IFHE is 33mm's rounded from 32.9) when you previously could not. But then again this does lower your fire chance so it really does depend on whether you would rather creep around delivering shells to unexpecting destroyers or be an anti-aa escort ship or with IFHE you could sit behind mountains letting the havoc break out on the decks of colorados, nagatos and gneisenaus, it depends on your play style.

Regards Elmo

edit: once you have fully saturated the bow/stern of the BB then you cannot do any more damage so might want to think that through (apart from ss) but you cannot citadel so hmmm

 

Thanks greatly...This is the analysis that makes my battle glands run hot.

 

Looks like IFHE is the way to go.

[ellofiend]

Oh wow thanks! Glad it helps, a bit of time researching pays off

[AntifoulAwl]

10 hours ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

Fly India X-ray and Victor Lima flags as well........because.

 

 

Those two, but what really wanna fly is a 1960s cartoon flag..

 

[GRADAN31]

I have demolition expert with IFHE, which allows me to cause damage while setting fires everywhere. But I took the long route to get CE first then IFHE. Still, IFHE does work well on BB, provided they are not shooting you.

[ellofiend]

Flame uploaded a video discussing the clevelands captain skills that would be suggested although that might be just for ranked but would still be worth a look: Cleveland is at 20:00

 

[jagdtiger88]

13 hours ago, GRADAN31 said:

I have demolition expert with IFHE, which allows me to cause damage while setting fires everywhere. But I took the long route to get CE first then IFHE. Still, IFHE does work well on BB, provided they are not shooting you.

I agree with your build

for me, setting fires is more important

 

as I tend to use my clevo cptn in my atlanta, IFHE will definitely lower atlanta's fire chance 

so better not equip IFHE?! or just use another captain for atlanta?!

1% fire chance different is a lot for atlanta, right?!

[GRADAN31]

48 minutes ago, blacknoheart said:

I agree with your build

for me, setting fires is more important

 

as I tend to use my clevo cptn in my atlanta, IFHE will definitely lower atlanta's fire chance 

so better not equip IFHE?! or just use another captain for atlanta?!

1% fire chance different is a lot for atlanta, right?!

I am not sure if you are being rhetorical here, but with the number of guns on Atlanta, 1% is nothing (with DE). Like Cleveland, somehow I still set fire regularly. However, I have not tried with just IFHE alone.

[jagdtiger88]

4 hours ago, GRADAN31 said:

I am not sure if you are being rhetorical here, but with the number of guns on Atlanta, 1% is nothing (with DE). Like Cleveland, somehow I still set fire regularly. However, I have not tried with just IFHE alone.

 

i don't have IFHE yet, that's why I asked

unlike cleveland 12% fire chance, atlanta only have 5%, so 1% in the atlanta matters much more

and you hardly hit anything with those guns except the slow moving BBs

 

[GRADAN31]

4 hours ago, blacknoheart said:

 

i don't have IFHE yet, that's why I asked

unlike cleveland 12% fire chance, atlanta only have 5%, so 1% in the atlanta matters much more

and you hardly hit anything with those guns except the slow moving BBs

 

oh, I just realised Atlanta uses 127mm guns . I guess using IFHE means you will rely more on HE penetrations on Atlanta rather than having fire, i.e. aim better to deal more damage from hitting target, dont expect too much fires.

[icy_phoenix]

This is how I would do it.

 

Order:

PT - duh

AR - any way to increase RoF is good

DE - no other L3 skill is useful. use premium consumable if you think you can't live without SI

CE - easier time as bottom tier, but if you go for ranked IFHE first. for random, DE is enough to compensate IFHE by getting fire damage.

IFHE - you still don't need monster AA. DFAA, fighter, clear sky flags, aa range mod should be enough. ensured surface damage is more important. no good cv will look at your way anyway, the one who come after you are bad and will be autodropping.

AFT - imo this can be skipped if you are not AA fanatic.

DCCA - when dfaa down, your fighters will screw up enemy cv drop. when you are behind rock, and no spotter for you, your fighters will give you more vision.

 

If you skip AFT, you can get BoS/BFT + PM which is better investment in my opinion.

 

Like I said, people will assume that you have OP AA anyway (unless you tell them that you don't). Wasting a lot of point on them seems to be an overkill to me.