Neptune and Minotaur needs lowered citadel!

[HMS_Swiftsure_08]

Neptune and Minotaur are having low average damage in average data tracking compared to other cruisers of the same tier. So I believe it's necessary that wargaming reduce the size of their citadel in a similar fashion to the USN BB. British cruisers need some love!

 

Ok… This doesn't make sense even to myself. It's actually a rant about wargaming's decision to lower USN BB citadel. I see no clear reason why wargaming decided to buff two average/well performing ships. They totally ignored the Izumo which is perfectly crap. Wargaming buffed something that showed no problem in both statistics and battle performance while ignoring ships that were underperforming.

Now if I propose buffing Neptune and Minotaur in the following way, you will know that it's creating OP ships. 1.Reducing the citadel size. 2.Buff the Mark N5's ballistics to be similar to Cleveland's AP (which is fairly good compared to the current shyt bad ballistics). The reason is that Minotaur has far lower average damage compared to other T10 cruisers due to either failing to survive long enough to make damage or failing to maintain hits. My proposal actually make more sense than buffing USN BB.

 

Ok… Just ignore this post if you think I failed to deliver my idea. But in one word, wargaming isn't using their brains when they lowered Iowa/Missouri/Montana's citadel.

[icy_phoenix]

It's a feature of USN lines. If you whine enough you get a buff. Special bonus if you do that in NA forums.

[icy_phoenix]

As far as I remember, even before buffs, Montana had the highest survivability in Asia for all tx BBs.

[Skarhabek]

 i am going to rant about their AA.... also their 3 second reload.... also their spamming AP on my Bismarck from behind island/smoke

the Minotaur is a support ship, they have smoke and insane AA. they kill T10 DD like machine gun againts rabbit..... nerf? when? please....

 

want a real Damage? go get Henry4! in game HIGHEST DAMAGE! the CV and BB is becoming crap againts this ship!

 

 

[HMS_Swiftsure_08]

2 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

It's a feature of USN lines. If you whine enough you get a buff. Special bonus if you do that in NA forums.

Ummmmmm, and the Brits are the close allies of the US during WWII so this should also be a RN feature. But there has been no Minotaur buff… so

MUST…

WHINE…

HARDER!!!

[HaruM47]

11 hours ago, _Halcyon said:

Ummmmmm, and the Brits are the close allies of the US during WWII so this should also be a RN feature. But there has been no Minotaur buff… so

MUST…

WHINE…

HARDER!!!

 

Do British & US share the same ship building & design methodology or best practices, etc.?

[EULA_violator]

no, but we can still whine about it on the forums

[Pocket_Fox]

Nep and Mino already strong. Concealment is your armor.

Rapid firing super AP rounds able to pen BB's is your damage.

 

Adjust your playstyle and you will see a big difference and reap massive rewards.

[EULA_violator]

4 minutes ago, Pocket_Fox said:

Nep and Mino already strong. Concealment is your armor.

Rapid firing super AP rounds able to pen BB's is your damage.

 

Adjust your playstyle and you will see a big difference and reap massive rewards.

did you bother to look at the OP?

[Harpoon01]

I always prefer they remove the smoke and add HE round

So they can get more consistent damage

 

Ok, about USN BB at high tier

 

Trust me, lowered citadel wont make them braver to engage anything less than 10 km, at least not much

 

[Skarhabek]

Just now, Harpoon01 said:

I always prefer they remove the smoke and add HE round

So they can get more consistent damage

 

 

i will play Britsh if that happened.... 3 sec reload spamming HE with 18% burn chance + IFHE

another Henry4 appear!

[Onlinegamer]

Minotaur and Nepu are ok

I think I always shoot in smoke and behind island 

Minotaur and Nepu are supporter DD when DD cap (almost same Zao with full stealth)

[HMS_Swiftsure_08]

3 hours ago, Pocket_Fox said:

Nep and Mino already strong. Concealment is your armor.

Rapid firing super AP rounds able to pen BB's is your damage.

 

Adjust your playstyle and you will see a big difference and reap massive rewards.

 

2 hours ago, Onlinegamer said:

Minotaur and Nepu are ok

I think I always shoot in smoke and behind island 

Minotaur and Nepu are supporter DD when DD cap (almost same Zao with full stealth)

Do you guys just read the title but not the content? I know how to RN CL, I'm not good at them but I clearly understand the basic concept. This post is actually about wargaming buffing the USN BB that doesn't need more buff and made them OP.

[Somedude_Yudachi]

Royal Navy needs to be NERFED instead of getting "buffed",how would you feel if you're a CA/BB taking shots for every 3 seconds from dumbass hiding in smoke?

[W_M1]

PROTIP : As a british cruiser, use your smoke wisely to cover yourself.

[EULA_violator]

1 minute ago, W_M1 said:

PROTIP : As a british cruiser, use your smoke wisely to cover yourself.

PROTIP:  actually read the OP before posting

 

[EULA_violator]

20 hours ago, _Halcyon said:

Ok… Just ignore this post if you think I failed to deliver my idea. But in one word, wargaming isn't using their brains when they lowered Iowa/Missouri/Montana's citadel.

i agree, the montana hasnt been "weak" since they buffed her deck and speed, she fit the niche of a hast, heavy hitter that can operate somewhat independent from the main fleet very well, even though that position has been replaced by the GK now, she still isnt "weak" by any meaning of the word while Iowa and Missouri might have needed a bit of help the montana certainly dosnt

[W_M1]

2 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

PROTIP:  actually read the OP before posting

 

 

I read the OP completely and posted my opinion. What's your point?

[EULA_violator]

the point is, the point isnt about RNCLs, it's about iowa and montana's lowered citadels

[W_M1]

20 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

the point is, the point isnt about RNCLs, it's about iowa and montana's lowered citadels

 

No, the purpose of OP is to propose reducing the size citadel of T9,T10 of british cruisers to increase their survivability. The recent lowered citadel area of USN BB is just a basis to support the OP's idea.

 

I know that he's claiming that "This post is actually about wargaming buffing the USN BB that doesn't need more buff and made them OP." from the other post. But in this case, it's OP who failed to deliver his idea correctly from the first post, just he mentioned from the top.

[Webba84]

20 minutes ago, W_M1 said:

I know that he's claiming that "This post is actually about wargaming buffing the USN BB that doesn't need more buff and made them OP." from the other post. But in this case, it's OP who failed to deliver his idea correctly from the first post, just he mentioned from the top.

It is not polite to blame others for your lack of reading comprehension/effort. Plenty of people here have English as a second (or third, or fourth) language, nobody is going to laugh at you if you just admit you read it wrong the first time.

 

While the OP is a bit of a jumbled mess, it is perfectly clear that he is complaining about the changes to the Iowa and Montana, and not actually suggesting RN CL changes.

[EULA_violator]

33 minutes ago, W_M1 said:

 

No, the purpose of OP is to propose reducing the size citadel of T9,T10 of british cruisers to increase their survivability. The recent lowered citadel area of USN BB is just a basis to support the OP's idea.

I know that he's claiming that "This post is actually about wargaming buffing the USN BB that doesn't need more buff and made them OP." from the other post. But in this case, it's OP who failed to deliver his idea correctly from the first post, just he mentioned from the top.

do you even logic/read?

 

21 hours ago, _Halcyon said:

Neptune and Minotaur are having low average damage in average data tracking compared to other cruisers of the same tier. So I believe it's necessary that wargaming reduce the size of their citadel in a similar fashion to the USN BB. British cruisers need some love!

 

Ok… This doesn't make sense even to myself. It's actually a rant about wargaming's decision to lower USN BB citadel. I see no clear reason why wargaming decided to buff two average/well performing ships. They totally ignored the Izumo which is perfectly crap. Wargaming buffed something that showed no problem in both statistics and battle performance while ignoring ships that were underperforming.

Now if I propose buffing Neptune and Minotaur in the following way, you will know that it's creating OP ships. 1.Reducing the citadel size. 2.Buff the Mark N5's ballistics to be similar to Cleveland's AP (which is fairly good compared to the current shyt bad ballistics). The reason is that Minotaur has far lower average damage compared to other T10 cruisers due to either failing to survive long enough to make damage or failing to maintain hits. My proposal actually make more sense than buffing USN BB.

 

Ok… Just ignore this post if you think I failed to deliver my idea. But in one word, wargaming isn't using their brains when they lowered Iowa/Missouri/Montana's citadel.

he even spelled it out for you and you still dont get it?

[icy_phoenix]

Looks like not many people got the joke on the first time, lol

[HaruM47]

6 hours ago, Somedude_Yudachi said:

Royal Navy needs to be NERFED instead of getting "buffed",how would you feel if you're a CA/BB taking shots for every 3 seconds from dumbass hiding in smoke?

 

There's an ally with radars anyway. Ask for radar scan from RU & US Cruisers if lucky

[dieselhead]

7 hours ago, _Halcyon said:

 

Do you guys just read the title but not the content? I know how to RN CL, I'm not good at them but I clearly understand the basic concept. This post is actually about wargaming buffing the USN BB that doesn't need more buff and made them OP.

Not sure I'd call them op, they still burn to the waterline just as quick as any other BB and I still find it easier to citadel Iowa and Montana than I do Yamato or Kurfurst.