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British Battleships Sighted on the broad horizon (WiP)

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Hello fellow commanders (Ciao ragazzi)

So as no-one has posted a thread about the topic I have decided to make the topic more widespread/common knowledge, so here is a complete compilation of everything that is known about the British Battleships, original page: https://thedailybounce.net/2017/06/08/british-battleships-complete-list/ 

Tier 3: HMS Bellerophon - Bellerophon class dreadnought battleship (1907 - 1921), Nothing much, well what do you expect, its tier 3

Competitors: Nassau, South Carolina, Kawachi, Konig Albert

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Tier 4: HMS Orion - Orion Class (1909 - 1922) - Again Nothing much.

Competitors: Kaiser, Wyoming, Myogi, Ischizuchi, Imperator Nikolai, Arkansas Beta

Image result for hms orion battleship

Tier 5: HMS Iron Duke - Iron Duke Class (1912 - 1932) What to say....average maybe? nothing special

Competitors: Konig, New York, Kongo, Texas

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Tier 6: HMS Queen Elizabeth - Queen Elizabeth Class (1914 - 47)  P.S  Nagato was the Japanese counterpart of the Queen Elizabeth so how will it match up?

Competitors: Bayern, New Mexico, Fuso, Arizona, Warspite, Dunkerque, Mutsu

Image result for hms queen elizabeth modernised

Tier 7: HMS Nelson - Nelson Class (1927 - 1947) Call me weird but this is my personal favourite (the design and shape, not the practicality/speed)

Competitors: Gneisenau, Colorado, Nagato, Hood, Scharnhorst

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Tier 8: HMS King George V - King George V Class (1940-1951) Matching up against the Bismarck,north Carolina, amagi, how will she fare?

Competitors: Bismarck, North Carolina, Amagi, Alabama, Tirpitz

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Tier 9: HMS Lion - Lion Class (Constructed 1939 - Never Finished/Scrapped) amazing design, very nice and would have to be very good to be able to compete

Competitors: Friedrich Der Große, Iowa, Izumo, Missouri

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Tier 10: HMS Conqueror - I believe this is the 1944 modernized vision for the Lion Class? This is the plan name that someone posted: 16D38 and here is an image:

(1948 - Never constructed)

Competitors: Großer Kurfurst, Montana, Yamato

Courtesy of artist unknown

Image result for 16E38 concept battleshipAnyways, what are your thoughts on the new line?, do you think it will change?, do you think some ships will need to be buffed/nerfed?, what premium ships are we expecting?, although we may be waiting a while as we just got the hood.\

Regards Elmo

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Conqueror using 2x4 18" gun emplacement

There should be Vanguard as Bismarck Rival

Nelson have horrible speed despite good handling.

King George V use 14 inch, How the hell you use something that worse than Bismarck Gun in tier 8?

 

Where is dreadnought?

 

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8 minutes ago, Harpoon01 said:

Conqueror using 2x4 18" gun emplacement

There should be Vanguard as Bismarck Rival

Nelson have horrible speed despite good handling

King George V use 14 inch

How the hell you use something that worse than Bismarck Gun in tier 8

 

Where is dreadnought?

 

I have been hearing people saying that the dreadnought will be a premium and that it is not a tier 3 because it is a "prototype" a.k.a a one-off, I just realised that the KGV has a 3x3x2 turret layout with a triple on the bottom and a double on the top, how weird would that feel when firing?

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10 minutes ago, ellofiend said:

I have been hearing people saying that the dreadnought will be a premium and that it is not a tier 3 because it is a "prototype" a.k.a a one-off, I just realised that the KGV has a 3x3x2 turret layout with a triple on the bottom and a double on the top, how weird would that feel when firing?

4x2 and 2x1

 

Quite similar when you use Mogami

6 guns at front 

4 at the stern

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KGV may only have 14" guns, but it had one of the thickest armour belts of any battleship built.

In fact, it was only surpassed by the Yamato. So expect an incredibly tanky ship.

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Yay !

I guessed on the iron duke & queen Elizabeth, & on the hood, didn't pick bellerophon or orion though, but looking at them again, it sort of makes sense... Though I was fully expecting dreadnought at tier 3... & I would've put a battlecruiser at t4, indefatigable or invincible class, or even the Agincourt, that would give Nikolai a run...

I'm surprised at this conquer BB, never heard or seen of it before, I was expecting lion BB at t10, vanguard at t8... Even though vanguard had 15" guns, the turrets were upgraded to have better firing angle, (& to fire faster?) , & it had great AA & secondaries.

I thought kgv would've been better at t7, & t9 I would've expected the N3 battleship design, would've competed with izumo, etc. But they have slipped Nelson in instead at t7  (?)

ah well.... I await their arrival with anticipation... :Smile_child:

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5 hours ago, ellofiend said:

I have been hearing people saying that the dreadnought will be a premium and that it is not a tier 3 because it is a "prototype" a.k.a a one-off

I smell some kind of marathon for Dreadnought :cap_fainting:

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I smell T8 premium vanguard

 

KGV at T8 suited based on timeline, but gameplay wise she were weak at T8

 

Nelson at T7 would suit her Big 7 peer

but she were the weakest of big 7, putting her in T6 like mutsu can be a good idea

 

Conqueror seems to be based on 1944 Lion design, one of the unbuild lion class supposed to be named Conqueror too

 

Dreadnought at T2, for new seal clubbing experience

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10 hours ago, Ordrazz said:

Yay !

I guessed on the iron duke & queen Elizabeth, & on the hood, didn't pick bellerophon or orion though, but looking at them again, it sort of makes sense... Though I was fully expecting dreadnought at tier 3... & I would've put a battlecruiser at t4, indefatigable or invincible class, or even the Agincourt, that would give Nikolai a run...

I'm surprised at this conquer BB, never heard or seen of it before, I was expecting lion BB at t10, vanguard at t8... Even though vanguard had 15" guns, the turrets were upgraded to have better firing angle, (& to fire faster?) , & it had great AA & secondaries.

I thought kgv would've been better at t7, & t9 I would've expected the N3 battleship design, would've competed with izumo, etc. But they have slipped Nelson in instead at t7  (?)

ah well.... I await their arrival with anticipation... :Smile_child:

Ordrazz

Yes, with agincourt having the same caliber and amount of guns as the Nikolai, it would be a re-load fight and also Armour, who would win that? 

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KGV from supertest server (sort of) was rumoured to have 14 inch guns tied to the A hull and 15 inch in the same 4-2-4 layout when upgrading to the B hull. Though, still very early to justify whether it's gonna be for the release version or not.

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1 minute ago, BIGCOREMKP0I said:

Where's HMS Prince Of Wales?

premium i am almost sure of

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will it be PoW which fought bismarck or DoY which sunk scharnhorst?! you can't have both  :Smile-_tongue:

personally I still prefers PoW

and If PoW will be T8 prem ship, where will vanguard be?! 

 

if the stats will be the same as warspite, many people will struggle and wine about T6 QE 

 

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11 hours ago, humusz said:

Dreadnought at T2, for new seal clubbing experience

overwhelm fire power.

T3 South Carolina the first dreadnought of USN

T3 Kawachi the first dreadnought of IJN

T3 Nassau the first dreadnought of IGN

I wonder why HMS Dreadnought not on T3

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30 minutes ago, blacknoheart said:

will it be PoW which fought bismarck or DoY which sunk scharnhorst?! you can't have both  :Smile-_tongue:

personally I still prefers PoW

and If PoW will be T8 prem ship, where will vanguard be?! 

 

if the stats will be the same as warspite, many people will struggle and wine about T6 QE 

 

HMS Queen Elizabeth had more modified AA Guns on WWII, mostly those octuple AA Guns replaced by Bofors Mk II and Bofors Mk I during her remodel

 

PS: She equipped Torpedo tubes like from the Leander-class cruisers

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4 hours ago, BIGCOREMKP0I said:

HMS Queen Elizabeth had more modified AA Guns on WWII, mostly those octuple AA Guns replaced by Bofors Mk II and Bofors Mk I during her remodel

 

PS: She equipped Torpedo tubes like from the Leander-class cruisers

 

I dont think better AA and few torps can help her survive against those AA spamming cruisers and DDs

unless QE will get better range or speed, many will struggle with her

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I have a feeling that British will have another BB line with mostly Battlecruiser and Fast Battleship in it

Which mean something like repulse and Vanguard will be in this Line of BB

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6 hours ago, MatterCore said:

overwhelm fire power.

T3 South Carolina the first dreadnought of USN

T3 Kawachi the first dreadnought of IJN

T3 Nassau the first dreadnought of IGN

I wonder why HMS Dreadnought not on T3

 

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Something to consider, is that given the leaked name for the Tier 9 BB (Lion), there won't be a Lion Battlecruiser  when they get around to releasing them (be it as a branch of BB's, a separate tree, or as individual premiums). So anyone that wants to see Battlecruiser Lion in the game better get agitating to change the Tier 9 name now, before it's too late.

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I am more concerned about what their speciality will be.

Maybe tough as nail conventional armour and a trunk load of HP + insane heal to trade off for poor gun performance and even poorer gun and hull traverse ?

Dont know , but one thing for sure is that i never ever want a bb to get a radar.

That single consumable is what makes Big Mo borderline OP and so much better than its sister ship

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4 hours ago, Capt_Brownpants said:

Something to consider, is that given the leaked name for the Tier 9 BB (Lion), there won't be a Lion Battlecruiser  when they get around to releasing them (be it as a branch of BB's, a separate tree, or as individual premiums). So anyone that wants to see Battlecruiser Lion in the game better get agitating to change the Tier 9 name now, before it's too late.

The lion had a sister ship called the princess royal, & a half sister the queen Mary.

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Initially I thought KGV at T8 with 14inch guns was ridiculous, but on closer look, the guns are actually 360mm historically, aren't they? 
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 360mm, it just gets past the 25mm auto-bounce threshold, which puts it on similar grounds as 380mm guns in terms of overmatch values. Only difference would be the shell weight and total krupp value. :cap_hmm:

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11 hours ago, legionary2099 said:

I am more concerned about what their speciality will be.

Maybe tough as nail conventional armour and a trunk load of HP + insane heal to trade off for poor gun performance and even poorer gun and hull traverse ?

Dont know , but one thing for sure is that i never ever want a bb to get a radar.

That single consumable is what makes Big Mo borderline OP and so much better than its sister ship

very good heal at T7,9,10 fast, and low concealment

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23 hours ago, fawx317 said:

Initially I thought KGV at T8 with 14inch guns was ridiculous, but on closer look, the guns are actually 360mm historically, aren't they? 
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 360mm, it just gets past the 25mm auto-bounce threshold, which puts it on similar grounds as 380mm guns in terms of overmatch values. Only difference would be the shell weight and total krupp value. :cap_hmm:

 

355.6 mm

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