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do you think there'll be any BB that match or surpass Yamato(gun)?

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despite one of the oldest ship in game yet she still roll supreme and accepted as a best tier 10 BB by many

(of cause she must be in a hand of those who know how to play her)

 

but, this game still have long future (... I think...)

so, do you think there's chance that WG implement a BB that can surpass or at least match yamato gun in future?

 

we already disappoint about project H battleship of german BB that can potential surpass yamato...

but come on, this game already have some fictional ship right?

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Other than the Musashi (if they ever bring her in) no other BB will ever have a 460mm Gun, they have said this before many times as no other navy was serious about having that size gun on a BB other than wishful dreams of various Admirals.

 

And as for the Kurfurst being a disapointment it's a bloody good ship that can go toe to toe with both the Yamato & Montana.

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Meh, there is many paper concept, only few were developed, then deployed.

 

even those considered "Paper" , Like - Gun on Moskva. were actualy finished prototype testing in 1954

that mean, the guns were very real, but never deployed on any ships

 

at some point, you should ask. what line WG would not cross when implementing paper project

18 inch gun on H project is as fleeting cloud, as 20 inch gun of Super Yamato

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perhapes the brits?

the only feasible guns on T10 BB are either

2x4 460

3*4 406/410/420

3*3 460

or fast firing 3*3s

eventually a ship will come along with 460s

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This is WG. I don't really trust their, "That won't happen again or That won't happen at all" statements after playing WOT for 5 years. Devs constantly change their stance depending on the situation.

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I heard the Brits have some design of 457mm guns which are technically smaller than 460mm.

USN also had 457mm/18.0" Montana designs, despite all being rejected during early stages.

 

32mm*14.3=457.6mm, which means 18.0" shells still got autobounce off 32mm when angled.

 

But 18" guns can still overmatch 30mm deck of T10 heavy cruisers, an ability I see as more critical than overmatching BB 32mm. HE can be good at fighting bow tank BB, but isn't that effective against cruisers. And scaring off cruisers are critical to BB survival.

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USN also had 457mm/18.0" Montana designs, despite all being rejected during early stages.

 

32mm*14.3=457.6mm, which means 18.0" shells still got autobounce off 32mm when angled.

 

But 18" guns can still overmatch 30mm deck of T10 heavy cruisers, an ability I see as more critical than overmatching BB 32mm. HE can be good at fighting bow tank BB, but isn't that effective against cruisers. And scaring off cruisers are critical to BB survival.

 

No, that gun wasn't for the Montana, it was a rumour when the Navy heard about a Japanese battleship to be equipped with that gun.

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USN also had 457mm/18.0" Montana designs, despite all being rejected during early stages.

 

32mm*14.3=457.6mm, which means 18.0" shells still got autobounce off 32mm when angled.

 

But 18" guns can still overmatch 30mm deck of T10 heavy cruisers, an ability I see as more critical than overmatching BB 32mm. HE can be good at fighting bow tank BB, but isn't that effective against cruisers. And scaring off cruisers are critical to BB survival.

 

Those 18inch gun never complete

Admiral Furlong during General Board Hearing, state that those 18 Inch gun were worse, and have lesser range than 16inch/50

the Tube lifetime also can only sustain 120 Shoot before needed to be Replaced. while 16inch/50 have lifetime of 350 shoot (USN and British standard)

the whole project scraped soon after

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No, that gun wasn't for the Montana, it was a rumour when the Navy heard about a Japanese battleship to be equipped with that gun.

Thx for correction, sorry for my poor memory. There wasn't a 18" design of BB-65 Montana, instead there was actually a 14" design(BB-65J of 1939). The later super treaty designs made after the war begun all featured 16" guns.

There were thinkings of putting 18" Mk A or 16" Mk4 on a BB-65 Montana in 1939, but as the design was targeting 45000 ton standard at that time, those guns were too heavy and there wasn't a design featuring them.

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Well, if we are talking about gun calibre, I really doubt it. Gun performance, doubt it as well.

War Gaming wants Yamato to have the best BB guns in the game because supposedly, it can't compete with GK or Montana without those god tier guns. 

 

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Well, if we are talking about gun calibre, I really doubt it. Gun performance, doubt it as well.

War Gaming wants Yamato to have the best BB guns in the game because supposedly, it can't compete with GK or Montana without those god tier guns. 

 

 

because it cant, simple as that, and the montana's guns are actually the punchiest gun of them all IMHO

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Can we please have the super-alsace with 4x4 380mm guns? With the same 35% fire chance and 28 second reload as the Dunkerque? 

 

Nobody will talk about Yamatos big guns, blah blah blah, if we have this thing firing 10k+ damage salvo of HE and setting 3 fires with each salvo. 

 

 

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Can we please have the super-alsace with 4x4 380mm guns? With the same 35% fire chance and 28 second reload as the Dunkerque? 

 

Nobody will talk about Yamatos big guns, blah blah blah, if we have this thing firing 10k+ damage salvo of HE and setting 3 fires with each salvo. 

 

 

 

and give each turret on that ship as much of a chance to detonate as Richelieu's and then we're talking

 

"sir, we have engaged the enemy"

"enemy salvo incoming"

"sir we have just became the Richelieu"

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It's all well and good to have big guns but I still haven't come across a team that does not universally know a Yamato is a threat and focus fire on it.  

 

inb4, Yamato is a very good target for RN CLs to farm ribbons on :D

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View Postdrakon233, on 30 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

 

and give each turret on that ship as much of a chance to detonate as Richelieu's and then we're talking

 

"sir, we have engaged the enemy"

"enemy salvo incoming"

"sir we have just became the Richelieu"

Are you referring to the premature explosion of her No. 2 turret? I really doubt that could be counted as an detonation.

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Are you referring to the premature explosion of her No. 2 turret? I really doubt that could be counted as an detonation.

 

implode then, i used detonation to trigger people

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