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Des Moines is so much better than the Zao

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Because the torps you have to get within 8 km which means you are not playing tier 10 right 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can correct me like saying blah blah blah the Zao is better than the des moines but state why if by chance you think the Zao is better 

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Not sure if serious or troll....

 

And no, you do not use torps in the Zao, they are extremely situational as the torp angles are terrible.

 

Also Zao bounces all BB shells except Yamato.

 

Des memes eats all BB shells except Bismarck/Tirpitz

 

Guess which one is more survivable?

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Des Moines or Zaou?

 

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Do I really need to show the Zaou's (much worse) stats in comparison?

Edited by Haku

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Des Moines or Zaou?

 

NSSWInm.png?1

 

Do I really need to show the Zaou's (much worse) stats in comparison?

 

But does Des Moines have crowd control and stuns?
Edited by LunaticRed

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Are we seriously talking about Zao's equipping torps being a disadvantage? It's a game not some historical lesson about how to make a perfect fictional WWII warship.
1.Torps won't detonate in WoWS. I mean if your ship take a hit at the torp tube, you won't be detonated. Only main battery magazine is prone to detonate in WoWS and putting a Juliet Charlie can fix it.
2.having some good stuff in extra can only be good, even tho you may never use them.
3.Torps can be used in different ways. Sometimes the white prediction line is more useful than the armament themselves. Basically that's what most IJN cruisers' torp do, estimating the speed of enemy ship.
4.People do push in T10. Zao's torp themselves can also be useful in some cases, although extremely rare. I once torped Gearing's smoke and almost deleted the Gearing with a torp hit. Getting into 8km range isn't impossible in T10, there's cyclone and various situations. My Grosser is a secondary build(10.6km range, quite short for T10) and I'm happy with it, she even rained hell upon two T10 DD in a desperate cap fight.(I went into the cap alone cuz if I didn't, the enemy would win. All DDs of the team were sunk, and our DM refused to help me.)

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But does Des Moines have crowd control and stuns?

 

What a bother.

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only 2 thing Zao is  better than DM

Stealth firing and shell speed

and DM is better than many thing

AA, RoF, AP HE, radar

I love fast firing guns (DM) but I love torps (Zao) 

 

 

 

The only problem is that invisifiring is boring and the dm has radar hundred times better AA better RoF and if by chance the Zao gets to 8 during a cyclone or if he has dd put smoke for him the dd will anyway flee because they are dead scared of the Des Moines and the Zao sits in there just radar and kill him

 

So what I think the the Des Moines is better than the Zao 

 

So now can you'll tell me Des Moines vs Hindenburg please

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How DARE you to say that Zao the scapegoat is worse than anything.

 

Zaou is worse than the Des Moines.

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I really don't know what to say...that you're trolling or not...

 

I really am not.

 

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winrate is something that i'm not really care about...Especially when comparing ships

 

Then look at every other stat in that photo. I can do much more with the Des Moines than I can in the Zaou. Zaou is boring and cannot play for the objectives. The only stats where I lose out are in main battery hit rate (31% vs. 33%...for a ship that is supposedly 'impossible' to aim in) and in torpedo hit ratio (for obvious reasons).
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winrate is something that i'm not really care about...Especially when comparing ships

 

I don't understand, you play a game to win.. right? So why does WR doesnt matter?

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