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Ranked Battles Season 6 -- For those who can't buy premium ships

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It has been announced that the upcoming Ranked Battles will only use tier 7s (except for the Super League, it's a different matter entirely). While that is a good thing (you don't have to switch from tier 6 to 8 when Rank 15 is achieved), tier 7 is well-known for having powerful, if not OP, premium ships like the Saipan, Belfast, Leningrad, etc.

 

Which brings me to ask this, for those who can't buy premium ships, are there any tier 7 non-premium ships good enough to bring to this season of Ranked Battles? Or might as well skip it?

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Colorado, Gneisenau, Nagato

Mahan, shiratsuyu

 

All viable. Play as a team and work together to overcome the threats and OP ships. Profit.

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BB : 

the BB at tier 7 is pretty much all rounded balanced i think. they all have their own advantages and disadvantes. BB user should not be worried to much. just take whatever u can do best in it.

Gneis (+) awesome AA and 2ndary that actually damaging, torps, 32knots (-) 6 guns with kinda awfull dispersion

Shinyhorse (+) torps, 9 guns, fast reload, fast (-) can't overmatch other BB bow while getting overmatched

Nagato (+) pretty good dispersion, and the shell penetration is good at that tier (-) kinda paper, AP 2ndary that is very situational but can be either devasting or useless, Meh AA

Colorado (+) murican shell, OP Heal, a bit tanky, good AA (-) slowest of all, kinda lack in 2ndary, low hp


there is NO "I WIN" button in BB line up

 

CV : AS ranger with AS load out, or AS hiryuu with AS load out ( no other choice here isnt it? tough hiryuu is MUCH more preferable)

Hiryuu :

10 skill point = u can get 5th plane in ur fighter squadron.

11th point = u got DFE that will help a lot if u are fighting saipan.

so yeah. u need atleast 11 skill point in ur hiryuu to actually compete with saipan


I WIN button : Saipan

 

CA/CL : sorted in preferable list

Fiji : smoke, and torp. pretty good concealment too. veeeeery paper tough

myoko : acceptable armour, and hard hitting 8 incher, good fire chance too. 

schorse : if u good at sniping target. best fire starter. tough she is pretty squishy,

Yuck : -_-

pepsi : pls dont take her if u can't play unicum like in her


I WIN button : BuyFa* or the infamous Flint

 

DD : sorted in preferable list

Mahan : if u are familiar with how to USN DD, she is the best non premium DD that u can bring in to ranked

Poi : 16 torps FTW, awesome concealment too.

Trap : armanent wise, she is better than mahan and sonar~. BUT, the smoke is a turn down, coz it will make her less usefull in team play.

Kiev : infamous not wanted ship in rank, coz she is very easy to get countered, just spot her and let ur team CA/CL get her, playing her as long range fire spammer will make u lost coz u are not capping this way[not capping = bad].

akatsuki : lacking in concealment, lacking in gun capabilities for cap contest, worst choice to take in to ranked.


I WIN button : SIMS, blyska

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This Season like experimental

DD: Kiev, Mahan, Z1 are worst

       Shiratsuyu, Akatsuki are torp spammers

       Sims, Leningrad are the most dangerous

CL/CA: Pensacola with buff, no idea

       York, Shchors, Fiji some good some bad

       Myoko and 5 clones, you will see a lots of first victim

       Atlanta/Belfast/Indianapolis/Flint, beware

BB: Colorado, you will LOL

       Nagato dont underestimate

       Gneisenau, Scharnhorst ... banzai

CV: Ranger vs Hiryu is fine

       Saipan OMG

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BB : 

the BB at tier 7 is pretty much all rounded balanced i think. they all have their own advantages and disadvantes. BB user should not be worried to much. just take whatever u can do best in it.

Gneis (+) awesome AA and 2ndary that actually damaging, torps, 32knots (-) 6 guns with kinda awfull dispersion

Shinyhorse (+) torps, 9 guns, fast reload, fast (-) can't overmatch other BB bow while getting overmatched

Nagato (+) pretty good dispersion, and the shell penetration is good at that tier (-) kinda paper, AP 2ndary that is very situational but can be either devasting or useless, Meh AA

Colorado (+) murican shell, OP Heal, a bit tanky, good AA (-) slowest of all, kinda lack in 2ndary, low hp


there is NO "I WIN" button in BB line up

 

CV : AS ranger with AS load out, or AS hiryuu with AS load out ( no other choice here isnt it? tough hiryuu is MUCH more preferable)

Hiryuu :

10 skill point = u can get 5th plane in ur fighter squadron.

11th point = u got DFE that will help a lot if u are fighting saipan.

so yeah. u need atleast 11 skill point in ur hiryuu to actually compete with saipan


I WIN button : Saipan

 

CA/CL : sorted in preferable list

Fiji : smoke, and torp. pretty good concealment too. veeeeery paper tough

myoko : acceptable armour, and hard hitting 8 incher, good fire chance too. 

schorse : if u good at sniping target. best fire starter. tough she is pretty squishy,

Yuck : -_-

pepsi : pls dont take her if u can't play unicum like in her


I WIN button : BuyFa* or the infamous Flint

 

DD : sorted in preferable list

Mahan : if u are familiar with how to USN DD, she is the best non premium DD that u can bring in to ranked

Poi : 16 torps FTW, awesome concealment too.

Trap : armanent wise, she is better than mahan and sonar~. BUT, the smoke is a turn down, coz it will make her less usefull in team play.

Kiev : infamous not wanted ship in rank, coz she is very easy to get countered, just spot her and let ur team CA/CL get her, playing her as long range fire spammer will make u lost coz u are not capping this way[not capping = bad].

akatsuki : lacking in concealment, lacking in gun capabilities for cap contest, worst choice to take in to ranked.


I WIN button : SIMS, blyska

 

"Trap", you mean the Maass?

 

Judging by your assessment, I guess I can take out my Colorado and those ARP Myokos... :hiding:

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       Sims, Leningrad are the most dangerous

       Atlanta/Belfast/Indianapolis/Flint, beware

       Saipan OMG

 

See, this is what I meant. A tier where there are powerful, if not downright OP ships exist. It'll probably be difficult for non-prem ship drivers to counter.

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Genisaneu, Nagato

Myoko, Yorck, Paper-Cola(let me get Hipper and Chicken Orleans plz:trollface:)

Mahan, Shirasuyu

CV? NOPE! I dont want to retrain my Hakuryu to Hiryu :D

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nagato and colorado with 2.0 sigma will murder everything. nagato by virtue of gun caliber, colorado by virtue of close-medium range arcs.

 

cv:hiryuu

 

dd: mahan will murder everything. dont take maass in. shiratsuyu is a good pick for double denial.

 

ca: fiji and myoko. the rest are garbage.

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This Season we will see a whole team with Premium ship and other team with regular ship.

Example : Saipan Scharnhorst Indianapolis Belfast Atlanta Flint Sims Leningrad

vs            Ranger Colorado Pensacola Shchors Myoko Fiji Kiev Mahan Z1

who shall win? can it happen?

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This Season we will see a whole team with Premium ship and other team with regular ship.

Example : Saipan Scharnhorst Indianapolis Belfast Atlanta Flint Sims Leningrad

vs            Ranger Colorado Pensacola Shchors Myoko Fiji Kiev Mahan Z1

who shall win? can it happen?

 

I doubt MM will field a full-prem ship team against a full non-prem ship team. But I'm not discounting it. 

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"Trap", you mean the Maass?

 

Judging by your assessment, I guess I can take out my Colorado and those ARP Myokos... :hiding:

 

yes

 

and yes

any BB that u can do good in it is fine.

myoko also fine. fiji is better, but kinda more tricky.

well i sorted non premium DD and CA/CL already, which is more preferable.

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I'm contradicting an earlier post I made somewhere (I definitely didn't think this is how it would look) but looking at the stats for 3-ship platoons (last 2 weeks) seems to indicate a 95% premium ranked season. Here is what the stats suggest

BRING IT??

Name

Tier

Type

Nation

Battles

WR 

Dmg

XP

K/D

Sh

Pl

Srv

MBH

TH

YES

Saipan

7

CV

 USA

1,459

76.56%

58,705

1,771

9.3

1.4

24

85%

0%

0%

YES

Sims

7

DD

 USA

3,403

67.88%

27,999

1,841

1.9

0.9

1.8

56%

34%

4%

YES

Belfast

7

CA/CL

 UK

4,816

67.82%

52,305

1,648

2.4

1.2

1.9

52%

32%

0%

YES

Atlanta

7

CA/CL

 USA

2,447

66.41%

35,496

1,570

1.5

0.9

7.9

43%

23%

11%

YES

Błyskawica

7

DD

 Poland

1,873

66.04%

38,345

1,426

2

1

0.1

51%

39%

4%

NO

Hiryu

7

CV

 Japan

1,033

66.02%

53,838

1,495

6.9

1.3

20.2

81%

0%

0%

MEAH

Leberecht Maass

7

DD

 Germany

670

65.22%

28,912

1,404

1.7

0.9

0.3

45%

42%

6%

YES

Scharnhorst

7

BB

 Germany

3,474

64.97%

59,221

1,596

2.2

1.1

1.9

49%

27%

13%

MEAH

Fiji

7

CA/CL

 UK

1,509

64.28%

51,371

1,470

2.3

1.1

1.2

50%

32%

8%

MEAH

Shiratsuyu

7

DD

 Japan

3,019

64.13%

33,731

1,349

2.1

1

0.2

53%

42%

5%

NO

Leningrad

7

DD

 USSR

1,073

62.63%

34,458

1,459

1.8

0.9

0.2

49%

42%

5%

NO

Gneisenau

7

BB

 Germany

3,077

61.72%

56,802

1,420

1.9

1

4.2

48%

28%

13%

NO

Ranger

7

CV

 USA

431

61.02%

47,542

1,487

3.3

0.9

17.6

71%

0%

0%

??

Indianapolis

7

CA/CL

 USA

340

60.88%

36,346

1,281

1

0.6

1.6

35%

29%

0%

NO

Shchors

7

CA/CL

 USSR

1,508

59.48%

50,940

1,381

1.6

0.9

0.8

42%

25%

9%

NO

Kiev

7

DD

 USSR

1,099

58.69%

36,435

1,348

1.3

0.8

0.3

39%

36%

6%

NO

ARP Nachi

7

CA/CL

 Japan

416

58.17%

40,993

1,183

1.2

0.8

1

38%

28%

3%

NO

Mahan

7

DD

 USA

906

57.95%

25,357

1,303

1

0.7

0.2

36%

35%

4%

NO

ARP Myoko

7

CA/CL

 Japan

311

57.56%

41,625

1,167

1.3

0.8

1

39%

29%

4%

NO

Colorado

7

BB

 USA

832

56.61%

52,920

1,240

1.6

0.8

0.9

47%

24%

0%

NO

Nagato

7

BB

 Japan

2,877

56.31%

53,721

1,258

1.5

0.8

1

46%

23%

0%

NO

ARP Ashigara

7

CA/CL

 Japan

297

56.23%

34,848

1,059

0.9

0.6

1.1

32%

27%

3%

GOD NO

Akatsuki

7

DD

 Japan

1,327

54.33%

26,827

1,097

1.1

0.7

0.4

36%

39%

4%

GOD NO

Myoko

7

CA/CL

 Japan

1,313

52.40%

35,917

1,084

1.1

0.7

0.9

37%

26%

3%

GOD NO

Pensacola

7

CA/CL

 USA

722

51.11%

31,792

1,101

0.9

0.6

1.3

34%

27%

0%

GOD NO

Yorck

7

CA/CL

 Germany

670

50.60%

36,247

1,183

1.1

0.7

1.1

38%

26%

6%

 

Red Font means prem. Better go shopping folks.

 

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Why shouldnt we bring any of the Myoko-class, its an OK ship for Ranked.

 

Myokos are fine fighting ships  but in organized play Smoke and Radar are way more important that fighting ability. Hence the ridiculous division win rates of Belfast and Atlanta (15% higher than Myoko in divisions!).

If you are bringing a Myko you are depriving your team of a Belfast or Atlanta. 

Come to think about it, Fiji should probably be down graded to "NO".

NO SMOKE? NO RADAR? NO SERVICE.

Now I have no ships to play in the next ranked :(

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I'm contradicting an earlier post I made somewhere (I definitely didn't think this is how it would look) but looking at the stats for 3-ship platoons (last 2 weeks) seems to indicate a 95% premium ranked season. Here is what the stats suggest

Red Font means prem. Better go shopping folks.

You are underestimate Nagato

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Aye.

 

CV

Saipan - I might say 301 is maybe better for spotting and punishing yolo DDs, 220 with 3 torp bombers is gonna get shot down fast when everyone is bunched up together around Belfast or Flint

Hiryu - non-premium option, 222

Ranger - NEVER USE USN CVs EXCEPT SAIPAN OR MIDWAY

 

BB

Nagato - good BB

Colorado - use Nagato

Gneisenau - massive AA, but are you sure you can tame that dispersion?

Scharnhorst - the worst BB you can take, you can't avoid fighting enemy BBs in ranked

 

CA/CL

Belfast - go to ship, still a difficult ship to play

Flint/Atlanta - strong but depends on the map and where you spawn

Myoko/ARP Myoko - well balanced non-premium with decent torps (T7 ranked has always been very smoky)

other T7 CAs - No

 

DD

Sims - Best fleet support + cap contester

Blys - Best mid-range flamethrower

Shiratsuyu - Best concealment (600m~1000m advantage), 4x2x2 poi torp wall with not-so-bad guns, extremely vulnerable to Belfast from its lowest HP and slowest speed

Akatsuki - constant torp spammer with good speed and concealment

Mahan - high firepower but slow + worst concealment, at least it has USN smoke

Z1 - the only sonar DD with torp spamming capability, meh in every other way... and whats wrong with your smoke?

Leningrad - It looks good on paper but man, those turrets have a VERY bad firing angle, you can almost never use all of your guns

Kiev - go to 'programs and features' and uninstall World of Warships

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You are underestimate Nagato

 

Actually, I'm a big Nagato fan. The list is just based on division stats, not my opinion.  One thing that the stats don't show is how the ships will perform in Epicenter.  Epicenter make  Colorado & Shiratsuyu better than indicated.

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CV

Saipan - I might say 301 is maybe better for spotting and punishing yolo DDs, 220 with 3 torp bombers is gonna get shot down fast when everyone is bunched up together around Belfast or Flint

Hiryu - non-premium option, 222

Ranger - NEVER USE USN CVs EXCEPT SAIPAN OR MIDWAY

Hiryu is great.... but Saipan is just so much better. The problem with ranked and mirrored matchmaking?

Better to have no CV on your team (and therefore no CV on the other team) than to have a Hiryu on your team facing a Saipan - so no Hiryus. Please. 

BB

 

Nagato - good BB

 

Colorado - use Nagato

 

Gneisenau - massive AA, but are you sure you can tame that dispersion?

 

Scharnhorst - the worst BB you can take, you can't avoid fighting enemy BBs in ranked

 

Good point. Maybe you are right about Scharnhorst in ranked but I think the Epicenter angle will favor Colorado/Gneisenau.

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Akatsuki - constant torp spammer with good speed and concealment

 

Getting outspotted (or meeting them at the same time) by all DDs not called Mahan or RU DDs is good concealment?

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