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Gneisenau missing main guns

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Why does the Scharnhorst  have the right gun configuration yet the Gneisenau which is a Scharnhorst class ship is only fitted with 3 x 2 main guns when it should be 3 x 3 exactly the same as the Scharnhorst.

Armament:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Gneisenau

 

Also attached a photo of the Gneisenau in dry dock

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Sixteen guns were used for the Bismarck and Tirpitz and six were ordered for the Gneisenau when it was to be re-armed in 1942. Six were intended for each of the O-class battlecruisers, but it is uncertain how many of these last were actually delivered. Six mountings with twelve guns were sold to the Soviet Union who planned to use them on two Kronshtadt-class battlecruisers, but these were never delivered. Surplus guns were used as coast defense guns.

 

The ship was built at the Deutsche Werke dockyard in Kiel; she was laid down on 6 May 1935 and launched on 8 December 1936. Completed in May 1938, the ship was armed with a main battery of nine 28 cm (11 in) C/34 guns in three triple turrets, though there were plans to replace these weapons with six 38 cm (15 in) SK C/34 guns in twin turrets.

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In early 1942, the two ships made a daylight dash up the English Channel from occupied France to Germany. After reaching Kiel in early February, the ship went into drydock. On the night of 26 February, the British launched an air attack on the ship; one bomb penetrated her armored deck and exploded in the forward ammunition magazine, causing serious damage and a large number of casualties. The repairs necessitated by the damage were so time consuming that it was determined to rebuild the ship to accommodate the 38 cm guns as originally intended. The 28 cm guns were removed and used as shore batteries. In 1943, Hitler ordered the cessation of conversion work, and on 27 March 1945, she was sunk as a blockship in Gotenhafen (Gdynia) in German-occupied Poland. She was eventually broken up for scrap in 1951.

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gneisenau

 

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So in game they have the Gneisenau that never eventuated as Hitler ceased the conversion so a paper ship is what we have,

 

Whereas during its actual battles during WW2 it was fitted with the same armament as the Scharnhorst.

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Correct so either the ship is different as it it is now or it wouldn't be in the game.  What would you prefer?

 

I asked a question for clarification and got that, no need to be so arrogant about it!

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Actually, reason why the little sister Gneisenau is there and with the planned upgun as her main set is due to the notion that she got the most upgrades installed since Scharnhorst didn't really have plans to be upgunned due to the fact she sank at North Cape after being whacked.

 

Also for the balance aspect: a modular battleship at that tier would be devastatingly powerful and Scharnhorst has to be unique premium.

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