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The new patch show that the new taable for commander retraining 

 

the previous amount where the ammount is maximum of 50.000 exp for retraining now gone?

did WG really hopeless about player not using doubloon to retraining commanders?

 

yes i know the old system where we need to train exactly half of the required amount for next level is hard, and that is why we are super happy that WG put limit of maximum 50.000 if retrained using credits. but now it return to old days????

 

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Not just that. They said slightly increased exp requirement to train captain ranks early on, while in reality it was twice the amount to exp to rank 10, with only a grand total of 100k exp reduction when you reach rank 19. So called drastically reduced exp needed to max lv a new captain, 1/15 discount from 1-19 for 1.8x exp from 1-10 and over 2x from 1-6.

 

Now we know retraining cost, it is also twice the amount as before on lower level captains. This whole improved captain level progression is a nerf, not a buff.

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Point 0.5 0.6 Different Point
 EXP   Total   EXP   Total 
1            1,200            1,200            1,500            1,500             (300)             (300)
2            1,300           2,500           2,500           4,000          (1,200)          (1,500)
3            1,500           4,000           4,000           8,000          (2,500)          (4,000)
4            2,100            6,100           6,000          14,000          (3,900)          (7,900)
5           3,400           9,500           9,000         23,000          (5,600)        (13,500)
6           5,800          15,300          14,000         37,000          (8,200)        (21,700)
7           9,600         24,900          21,000         58,000         (11,400)        (33,100)
8          16,000         40,900         30,000         88,000        (14,000)        (47,100)
9         25,000         65,900          41,000        129,000        (16,000)        (63,100)
10         37,000        102,900         54,000        183,000        (17,000)        (80,100)
11         53,000        155,900         69,000       252,000        (16,000)        (96,100)
12         74,000       229,900         87,000       339,000        (13,000)      (109,100)
13        102,000        331,900        108,000       447,000          (6,000)       (115,100)
14        136,000       467,900        132,000       579,000           4,000        (111,100)
15        179,000       646,900        159,000       738,000         20,000         (91,100)
16        231,000       877,900        189,000       927,000         42,000        (49,100)
17       294,000      1,171,900       222,000     1,149,000         72,000         22,900
18       369,000    1,540,900       259,000    1,408,000        110,000        132,900
19    9,999,999   11,540,899       300,000    1,708,000    9,699,999    9,832,899

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As much I agree with you but WG will say "Buttt.... you can get former T5 skill at 183 000 exp rather than old table 646 900 exp at no nerf cost eg CE, MFCSA, AS" 

 

I guess we are in lose some, get some situation. Oh well, just bear with it I guess.:(

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Point  EXP   Total  Retraining
1              1,500              1,500              1,000
2             2,500             4,000              1,500
3             4,000             8,000             2,000
4             6,000            14,000             3,500
5             9,000           23,000             5,000
6            14,000           37,000             7,500
7            21,000           58,000            10,000
8           30,000           88,000            15,000
9            41,000          129,000           20,000
10           54,000          183,000           25,000
11           69,000         252,000           30,000
12           87,000         339,000           40,000
13          108,000         447,000           50,000
14          132,000         579,000           75,000
15          159,000         738,000          100,000
16          189,000         927,000          125,000
17         222,000       1,149,000          150,000
18         259,000      1,408,000          175,000
19         300,000      1,708,000         250,000

 

 

they no longer count based on the next skill required amount. they just use fix rate

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Oh boy, look at the high-level captain's retraining, it's even more than half the exp required for the next level. What are you thinking WG?

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Yeah, I guess this is to prevent cheap retraining with Restless Fire, Dragon Flag, and 200k credits you can retrain lv 18 commander to lower tier ship in two games.

But then again even with the introduction to elite commander exp it feels kinda genital move

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well, we can get instant 15 point commander if we ready to spend 750.000 free exp anyway

 

all i see from this move is to promote retraining using doubloon

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Would have liked it better if the lvl10+ commander can begin generating a tiny ratio of elite exp (may be 1-2%) that increases as they lvling up closer to 19 points (probably up to 10%). The new player should be able to sample it quite early. As it is now, it's gonna be a long-rear-end grind until someone gets to use it. (or spending a crapton of doubloons to max out a captain)

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Okay.. i have done it... i can still retraining commander with 13 point using credits 200.000 to get the retraining down to 50% from 50.000 into 25.000 and then use elite commander exp to cover the 25.000 rest .. but for 14 points and above, 500 doubloon works more cheap :D

 

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Okay.. i have done it... i can still retraining commander with 13 point using credits 200.000 to get the retraining down to 50% from 50.000 into 25.000 and then use elite commander exp to cover the 25.000 rest .. but for 14 points and above, 500 doubloon works more cheap :D

 

Here is my table of retraining values. There are a couple of captain levels I don't have atm.

Skills Acquire Sum Retrain ½ Retrain
1 1 500 1 500 1 000 500
2 2 500 4 000 1 500 750
3 4 000 8 000 2 000 1 000
4 6 000 14 000 3 500 1 750
5 9 000 23 000   0
6 14 000 37 000 7 500 3 750
7 21 000 58 000 10 000 5 000
8 30 000 88 000 15 000 7 500
9 41 000 129 000   0
10 54 000 183 000 25 000 12 500
11 69 000 252 000 30 000 15 000
12 87 000 339 000 40 000 20 000
13 108 000 447 000 50 000 25 000
14 132 000 579 000 75 000 37 500
15 159 000 738 000 100 000 50 000
16 189 000 927 000 125 000 62 500
17 222 000 1 149 000 150 000 75 000
18 259 000 1 408 000   0
19 300 000 1 708 000   0

 

EDIT: Just noticed you put a list in second post.:facepalm:  TLDR :teethhappy:

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Here is my table of retraining values. There are a couple of captain levels I don't have atm.

Skills Acquire Sum Retrain ½ Retrain
1 1 500 1 500 1 000 500
2 2 500 4 000 1 500 750
3 4 000 8 000 2 000 1 000
4 6 000 14 000 3 500 1 750
5 9 000 23 000   0
6 14 000 37 000 7 500 3 750
7 21 000 58 000 10 000 5 000
8 30 000 88 000 15 000 7 500
9 41 000 129 000   0
10 54 000 183 000 25 000 12 500
11 69 000 252 000 30 000 15 000
12 87 000 339 000 40 000 20 000
13 108 000 447 000 50 000 25 000
14 132 000 579 000 75 000 37 500
15 159 000 738 000 100 000 50 000
16 189 000 927 000 125 000 62 500
17 222 000 1 149 000 150 000 75 000
18 259 000 1 408 000   0
19 300 000 1 708 000   0

 

 

yeah.. 50%.. and i am moving a 18 point soon...

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yeah.. 50%.. and i am moving a 18 point soon...

 

Well 50% of the retraining value if you pay 200k credits. However the reason I put the table in is because retraining is not half of initial value anymore. It varies.

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Well 50% of the retraining value if you pay 200k credits. However the reason I put the table in is because retraining is not half of initial value anymore. It varies.

yeah, check this as full list. 

 

Point  EXP   Total  Retraining
1              1,500              1,500              1,000
2             2,500             4,000              1,500
3             4,000             8,000             2,000
4             6,000            14,000             3,500
5             9,000           23,000             5,000
6            14,000           37,000             7,500
7            21,000           58,000            10,000
8           30,000           88,000            15,000
9            41,000          129,000           20,000
10           54,000          183,000           25,000
11           69,000         252,000           30,000
12           87,000         339,000           40,000
13          108,000         447,000           50,000
14          132,000         579,000           75,000
15          159,000         738,000          100,000
16          189,000         927,000          125,000
17         222,000       1,149,000          150,000
18         259,000      1,408,000          175,000
19         300,000      1,708,000         250,000

 

 

they no longer count based on the next skill required amount. they just use fix rate

 

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I refer maximum retraining 50 000 EXP, need a limit

 

sadly this is only in memories... now WG allow us to use elite commander and hoping us to convert more...and buy more doubloons

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sadly this is only in memories... now WG allow us to use elite commander and hoping us to convert more...and buy more doubloons

 

I've already stopped donating to WG until they can come up with a good offer :hiding:

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i still buy doubloon and remium time.

 

also the new requirement is harsh.. everytime i buy a new ship, train it till it get 10 point is hard.........

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