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3x in my last battle the same guy ran right between me and the target that I was obviously going to torp and torped it himself .. this had to be deliberate. So whats the deal here .. if I  fire my torps I get tk status ..  the system doesn't recognise this play and its been creeping into game more and more. So what do you people do in this situation? On the third time I was tempted to launch anyway as it was so blatantly obvious. This selfish gameplay ruins the game and needs to be addressed.

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Thee times does sounds deliberate or incredibly stupid, but in the end it is your responsibility to fire your torps safely.   If you think he is doing it then withdraw to another position and go for another target then record replay and report.

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Please recheck the game replay , i think it is also possible that he is a noob and is vision tunneling so he doesnt know what is going on around him , WG should add torpedo launch warning on the minimap ( ping sound with small words and maybe a torp direction indicator ).

Anyway the safest thing to do when you are pink is to play ships that dont use torps or bite your time with Co op game

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This is the second thread today about this and in both threads the overall consensus that the  firer bears the responsibility.  Yeap, its crappy that a griefer can take advantage of it but you just have to be careful

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It's actually very difficult to position yourself in order to block friendly torps. Especially if the torper is stealth torping just outside his detection range, in which case anybody in between the launcher and the enemy is more than likely close enough to be spotted by enemies and have their attention fixed on not getting deleted by the enemy than on what their team mates behind them are doing.

 

If both of you are close enough to be detected, the same applies as above, the guy is too busy watching the enemy in front to watch his allies behind him.

 

If you're torping from 10 km out, you're probably just too far out and the other guy is trying to launch torps from a closer distance to have a better chance at actually getting torp hits. He's not trying to steal it from you, he's just launching from a better position that you should have taken.

 

If the player is consistently saililng alongside you at close range, then that'd be fishy, but not hard to remedy by simply going somewhere else, a 180 turn is usually sufficient.

 

 

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Regardless of what is happening, you never drop torps from second line, specially in a brawl or cap fight. You don't need that kill, end of story. Move on to better angle and learn to anticipate both enemy and friendly ships movement. It is clearly your fault if your torps hit a friendly and no reasoning can make it right.

 

And someone said about reporting, what's to report here? Being in front of you isn't a report-able crime as far as I know. Last but not the least, anyone from the team getting the kill is sufficient.

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ill be more specific, I was a bit vague and I know what you mean about torping from behind, that's a no-no.

In this case (and it has happened before, just not 3 times in one game) I was ambushing from behind an island at close range (1-3 km) using a cruiser. Guy runs up beside me then turns in so I have to turn out or collide. He then sails in front  between myself and the enemy (already I cant torp) and he torps the target himself. Each time I move to a new target he turns up and does it again.  Ive seen this in a few games lately happening to other people as well as myself, it has evidently become a new trend .. or a more popular old one.

Time to record games me thinks.... I hope WG are aware of the issue and treat it accordingly, maybe after a few bans (or an official thread?) this stupidity will stop.

 

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Time to record games me thinks.... I hope WG are aware of the issue and treat it accordingly, maybe after a few bans (or an official thread?) this stupidity will stop.

 

 

Why would he be banned, I don't get it. From his perspective, you were every-where-ever he went to kill something, isn't it?

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ill be more specific, I was a bit vague and I know what you mean about torping from behind, that's a no-no.

In this case (and it has happened before, just not 3 times in one game) I was ambushing from behind an island at close range (1-3 km) using a cruiser. Guy runs up beside me then turns in so I have to turn out or collide. He then sails in front  between myself and the enemy (already I cant torp) and he torps the target himself. Each time I move to a new target he turns up and does it again.  Ive seen this in a few games lately happening to other people as well as myself, it has evidently become a new trend .. or a more popular old one.

Time to record games me thinks.... I hope WG are aware of the issue and treat it accordingly, maybe after a few bans (or an official thread?) this stupidity will stop.

 

 

Yeah, I'm not seeing an issue here. It's not like the game owes you any kills - if your teammate is going to be more proactive about torpedoing targets, more power to him. 

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So I'm reading from a moderator that its ok to push someone aside, block their path and take their target? is that an official answer because if I start doing the same I don't want repercussions?  How is he more proactive.. I set up the torp run close to target and he pretty much rams me aside to get in front at last second? If that's an official answer I'm disappointed. Any any normal environment its called harassment. Continued deliberate blocking ...

 

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Tag, Ive had the same thing myself.

 

I was CA, and a DD followed me the entire game within 1km distance and continually "cockblocked" me.

 

Very frustrating, and should be reported.

 

And you forum scum that jump down peoples throats when they post, need to stfu.

 

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So I'm reading from a moderator that its ok to push someone aside, block their path and take their target? is that an official answer because if I start doing the same I don't want repercussions?  How is he more proactive.. I set up the torp run close to target and he pretty much rams me aside to get in front at last second? If that's an official answer I'm disappointed. Any any normal environment its called harassment. Continued deliberate blocking ...

 

 

I think you're taking it out of context. You have only just introduced ramming. If that is the issue then this should have been addressed as ramming. Seems like we need you to tell the whole story first.

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sigh/ please take the time to read posts ... I set up ambush from behind island, as I turn to fire torps guy runs beside me so I have to turn or I ram him (hence there is no ram but would be if I didn't change course) he then proceeds to block my torps (If I fired I would be a TKr) and fires his own at target. 3x in one game is not an accident. The guy waits till I'm set up then pushes in front.  Imagine your in a ship or CV dropping torps, someone sees your planes/ship making run on enemy, deliberately turns into your path/torps so you will get TK status if you launch and then proceeds to attack the target. Its not rocket science ... DELIBERATELY BLOCKING to cause you to become TKr  .. its NOT alright. Its harassment.  Completely different from you torping from 10km and not caring if someone is sailing across your path. 

I'm not an idiot, please don't reply to posts assuming the poster is stupid. Read them carefully.

 

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It was explained clearly the first time.

 

Yeah, I'm not seeing an issue here. It's not like the game owes you any kills - if your teammate is going to be more proactive about torpedoing targets, more power to him. 

So I'm reading from a moderator that its ok to push someone aside, block their path and take their target? is that an official answer because if I start doing the same I don't want repercussions?  How is he more proactive.. I set up the torp run close to target and he pretty much rams me aside to get in front at last second? If that's an official answer I'm disappointed. Any any normal environment its called harassment. Continued deliberate blocking ...

 

 

Really? Where has Synada implied it's ok to push someone aside?

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it clearly says there's no issue and the other guy is being more proactive .. how can I read that as its not ok?   hes more proactive .. if it was NOT ok I would expect an answer like  "blocking someones torps is NOT OK, send in a replay and we will deal with it.

There' s obviously some bad communication on these forums. 

So is it ok to block peoples torps on purpose, following them about to repeat it? Or is it not ok to deliberately block torps? 

Its a simple question. 

I say its not ok .. 

You actually quoted the part that says "I'm not seeing an issue ... "  then ask me where Syanda says it ok? 

 

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Yeah. In specific relation to pushing. I even underlined it. I said you were taking it out of context. Turning proactive torpedoing into pushing is not bad communication, it's bad interpretation.

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It sounds like the griefers have found a different way to annoy a player. I dunno what you can do about it. The main thing is to not react and feed the trolls, if it is deliberate on their part they will repeat it if you do, if it was unintentional then you shouldn't encounter it more than once.

 

when someone blocks my chance to use torpedoes I just switch back to the guns and farm damage. The other thing you can do is maneuver to launch your fish from another angle in case the enemy dodges the first set.

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I once blocked torps, my CA was at 100% hp, our CV was down to 20%, so I went to him to provide AA cover. I chose to take the hit of 2 torps meant for CV. I then destroyed the DD shooting at him.

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It sounds like the griefers have found a different way to annoy a player. I dunno what you can do about it. The main thing is to not react and feed the trolls, if it is deliberate on their part they will repeat it if you do, if it was unintentional then you shouldn't encounter it more than once.

 

when someone blocks my chance to use torpedoes I just switch back to the guns and farm damage. The other thing you can do is maneuver to launch your fish from another angle in case the enemy dodges the first set.

<splutter> but that would be working with your team mate!!!!</splutter> We can't have any of that.

 

Dan

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