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Soviet DD> USN DD at close range ?

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Hi all, I want to ask everyone a question regarding Soviet and USN DD. It have to come my attention that some people on WOWS global fan base FB page are claiming that Soviet DD are everyway superior to USN DD at close range, especially those knife fights which people also claims at USN DD are specialised in. So it this the case?

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nope

those claim can come from 2 kind of ppl

1. super bad USN DD captain

2. super unicum RU DD captain

 

in normal scenario

in knife fight range 6km or less

USN DD absolutely destroy RU DD

why? while RU DD got more guns, but their guns reload almost twice longer

RU DD can lob 2 salvoes, USN DD can lob 3 salvoes

 

well yea.. it still depend on the player quality.

bad USN DD captain will lost to competent RU DD captain.

but in same player quality, USN DD will come out as the winner most of time in knife fight range battle

 


in ur case.

why dont u try it first.

 

i always see u post something like :

i HEARD that .........

other ppl claim that ........

or something like that

 

try it first ur self. and u will know it ur self, what is true and what is wrong.

so when there some ppl makes arguments, u can use ur own experience to makes ur own arguments

Edited by ReNation

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I don't think so. I use friendly dds  as bait to get closer. But not more than 9 km. In my udaloi when I encounter  a usn dd  I kite away from them with speed boost.Good technique by flamu.IF u get close to a us dd(less that 7 to 6 km) the sheer volume of shells  is too much to take in. Ultimately leading to getting rekt

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T1-8 USN DDs eat VMF for breakfast

T9 USN/VMF has about a 60/40 chance of winnning, as long as the VMF hauls arse and GTFO 7km of the USN DD

T10 is round 50/50

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Xpon use kiev and face a mahan, result is kiev died and mahan won.

 

Xpon use mahan and face a kiev, guess what? The kiev won

 

So it not about the ship. It who plays them.

 

Because i know someone who can even win against kiev and mahan while using hatsuharu

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Besides the disadvantage on RoF while CQC, VMF DDs also suffers in slow turret turning and large sizes, while USN DDs can kill them with no scope, VMF DDs struggles to keep their guns on target in CQC.

Once kill a Tashkent in 4km, he can't even shoot a single salvo while my Fletcher empties his HP.

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As a USN DD captain who's been in my fair share of brawls, I'd normally be obligated to say yes, but this isn't always the case. The important point here is that they are brawling. Yes, a USN DD usually has an easier time coming out on top, but the problem is getting a Russian to stay in the brawl. The ruskies are blisteringly fast and can run away easily to engage from range and, from what I've observed, most Russian DD captains will do that almost immediately. 4km from something like a Mahan, kiss your stern goodbye unless you can torp him. 6-7km, you've got a shot but you'll still lose health. 10km or more, well, it's way harder to hit a Russian, but USN DDs can compensate with sheer volume of fire if the captain's good.

 

Also it depends on how good your internet is. If you live in the Philippines, you'll rarely come out on top.

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Not, but usually you can't go fight Russian DD in close quarter combat unless for some very weird reason, they are contesting a cap against you and refuse to retreat. Every other sane Russian DD will always kite away from USN DD because that's the safest way to win 1v1 engagement against them. 

Yeah sure you might be able to win close quarter combat if you are good enough but how much HP you gonna waste by doing that? 

Edited by Vio_Strygun

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Besides the disadvantage on RoF while CQC, VMF DDs also suffers in slow turret turning and large sizes, while USN DDs can kill them with no scope, VMF DDs struggles to keep their guns on target in CQC.

Once kill a Tashkent in 4km, he can't even shoot a single salvo while my Fletcher empties his HP.

 

Compare Fletcher with Udaloi.

 

Also, I have seen Tashkent killing Fletchers. Doesn't really mean anything.  Everyone knows not to CqC with Fletcher unless you are Khaba or Gearing.

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Khabarovsk: "Nice cute 127mm guns you have there Gearing, now try penetrating my 50mm side plating thats immune to HE shells up to 300mm, lul."

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Under 5,5km I'd say USN has an advantage (probably except against Khabarovsk and max upgraded Udaloi?). USN has higher HE damage and significantly faster reload + turret traverse which are very advantageous for knifefighting. Ofc if the Soviet DD player knows how to use his brain he will just retreat to outside 7km and dominate you from that distance.

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VMF DD IS THE FASTEST, CUTEST AND BESTEST!!!

Sign up now to gulag for those who deny it

 

poor rip off tag is not gonna work.

 

beside, how come ucall them cute if they aare as big as cruiser?

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poor rip off tag is not gonna work.

 

beside, how come ucall them cute if they aare as big as cruiser?

 

Gulag
Edited by Fairuh

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You calling them fat?

 

My inner feminism is awakening

no.. i call them "Wide"

 

nowdays, Wide is a trend... even the UltraWide Monitor is  trend :P

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