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I've had enough with players who died early and then blame me for it, or blame me not spotting for them, or blame me didn't send fighter to escort.

 

Probably 95% of these blames are from the player who never played CV before and don't know how hard it is to multitask and oversees and the battle.

 

1. I can't do anything if you died early cause you charged out there and died so quickly.

2. I can't spot wherever you want whenever you want, I can't have my fighter do that all the time, they have to defend sometimes, escort sometimes.

3. I can't escort all of you losers(I mean the ones who blames CV all the time) if the team is spread out on two sides, there's only 2-3 teams of fighters and they can't escort both flank at the same time especially in bigger maps.

4. Non-CV players who focus on the surface usually don't have an idea of what exactly is going on in the air.

Rant over.

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Some people don't know anything about CVs.

 

For me I just pray that mine isn't a complete potato root vegetable. and MM blesses me by not putting the unicum CVs on the enemy team.

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Thats exactly it, a rant thread. Only a few % of players play cv, among 50% of them have no clue on what they are doing. If you are getting this a lot of time, may be you need to improve your cv play style.

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Interestingly, the CV players I know say that it is usually the enemy team pouring salt into chat, not their own teams.

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Well If you're that much of a CV player then tell me what a CV player should do?? And Now a days CV players are shit. Yes I said it.

Tell me why did they blame you exactly.Maybe Because You used your Strike loadout and got rekt by enemy CV's fighters and did absolutely nothing for the team and yourself. Maybe Enemy CV was concentrating on a Single Allied BB and you didn't help him because you were too busy engaging someone else.

 

When your own teammates are blaming you then it is your fault or why would they even care if you're in the game or not.

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I only play US CV and always have defensive loadout, I found myself good at defending then going on assault. But the problem is I can't defend all 11 allies all the time and they always blame the CV for anything bad happened to them. And some cruisers have really good AA, you should be able to defend a squadron yourself when I'm busy dealing with the other 5 squadrons somewhere else.

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Well If you're that much of a CV player then tell me what a CV player should do?? And Now a days CV players are shit. Yes I said it.

 

Tell me why did they blame you exactly.Maybe Because You used your Strike loadout and got rekt by enemy CV's fighters and did absolutely nothing for the team and yourself. Maybe Enemy CV was concentrating on a Single Allied BB and you didn't help him because you were too busy engaging someone else.

 

When your own teammates are blaming you then it is your fault or why would they even care if you're in the game or not.

 

Sometimes they simply blame the CV without a solid point.

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I only play US CV and always have defensive loadout, I found myself good at defending then going on assault. But the problem is I can't defend all 11 allies all the time and they always blame the CV for anything bad happened to them. And some cruisers have really good AA, you should be able to defend a squadron yourself when I'm busy dealing with the other 5 squadrons somewhere else.

 

If you take a sky an AS loadout, then you are expected to literally dominate the skies, and enemy CVs should not be getting off many strikes.  If you fail, then your team has every right to complain.

 

P.S. many players (me included) would instinctively think a defensive loadout shows lack of player skill.

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Kek your answer says it all No body never blames a player without a Point.

 

Actually, some ret poor players will do just that, rush down a point they know they will receive no support, then pour salt in chat after they die to enemy fire.

 

They exist.

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In case of defence, cv needs to hold the very front line (caps and dds) and the very back (cv himself against enemy snipe). Everything in between should not need cv support.

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Actually, some ret poor players will do just that, rush down a point they know they will receive no support, then pour salt in chat after they die to enemy fire.

 

 

They exist.

 

Well that kind of players blame everyone not just concentrate their blaming on CV. and I think OP is being blamed everytime when he gets his CV into random battles.

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Well If you're that much of a CV player then tell me what a CV player should do?? And Now a days CV players are shit. Yes I said it.

 

Tell me why did they blame you exactly.Maybe Because You used your Strike loadout and got rekt by enemy CV's fighters and did absolutely nothing for the team and yourself. Maybe Enemy CV was concentrating on a Single Allied BB and you didn't help him because you were too busy engaging someone else.

 

When your own teammates are blaming you then it is your fault or why would they even care if you're in the game or not.

 

I'm sorry that WG made it such that there are strike and AS loadouts. I'm sorry if I ever took strike and outcontributed the enemy CV while you guys have to take a few bombs/torps. This is especially true for USN, whose strike loadouts have no fighters until T9 (idk why) and DBs are quite inconsistent with that huge drop circle.

 

While I would like to take AS loadouts for some quality "teamplay", often times I find that the team is not worth supporting. I often light up targets and my team never focuses those guys down. I take strike loadout so I can do it myself.

 

I'll say it right here: taking AS is generally not worth it unless you can shut down the air VERY well (not as easy as you think), and even then I think AS is mostly useful in 2v2 CV fights... which are not present at T8+. I take strike because I can ensure some form of useful contribution and carrying i.e. zoning and killing isolated/brazen ships which AS/balanced loadouts usually cannot do due to lack of strike potential.

 

The next time your CV takes out a DD/other ship early in the game or does a HUGE amount of damage, give him a compliment or even two if he was up against an AS loadout CV; it goes a long way to winning the game. CVs also get less rewards now overall (you would have to do AS and strike roles very well to earn as much as the old economy would let you) so give us a break.

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If you take a sky an AS loadout, then you are expected to literally dominate the skies, and enemy CVs should not be getting off many strikes.  If you fail, then your team has every right to complain.

 

P.S. many players (me included) would instinctively think a defensive loadout shows lack of player skill.

 

Protecting the whole team is rather more important plus a defensive loadout got a bit bombers and torps you can support the BB at the same time, where assualt loadout often don't have any fighters and you'll have to sneak through enemy fighters. I play defensive loadout because 1. a lot of CV players use assualt load out especially Japanese CV which counter very nicely 2. I found myself better at defending and supporting BB.

 

The problem is when the team spread out so much you can't have your fighters cover every single allies, and get blame for because I let ONE squadron drop bombs on them while I'm dealing with multiple other squadron somewhere else.

 

CV is not easy to play and only players good at CV and understand it are qualified to blame other CV players playing shit, cause otherwise you have no idea what going on up in the sky while you focus only on the surface.

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I'm sorry that WG made it such that there are strike and AS loadouts. I'm sorry if I ever took strike and outcontributed the enemy CV while you guys have to take a few bombs/torps. This is especially true for USN, whose strike loadouts have no fighters until T9 (idk why) and DBs are quite inconsistent with that huge drop circle.

 

 

 

While I would like to take AS loadouts for some quality "teamplay", often times I find that the team is not worth supporting. I often light up targets and my team never focuses those guys down. I take strike loadout so I can do it myself.

 

 

 

I'll say it right here: taking AS is generally not worth it unless you can shut down the air VERY well (not as easy as you think), and even then I think AS is mostly useful in 2v2 CV fights... which are not present at T8+. I take strike because I can ensure some form of useful contribution i.e. zoning and killing isolated/brazen ships.

 

 

 

The next time your CV takes out a DD/other ship early in the game, give him a compliment; it goes a long way to winning the game. CVs also get less rewards now overall (you would have to do AS and strike roles very well to earn as much as the old economy would let you) so give us a break.

 

Let me quote what I said

 

 Maybe Because You used your Strike loadout and got rekt by enemy CV's fighters and did absolutely nothing for the team and yourself. 

 

I didn't just say that because he took Strike loadout, I said maybe he failed with that loadout and then got blamed by teammates for his failure.

 

and I also said 

 

 Maybe Enemy CV was concentrating on a Single Allied BB and you didn't help him because you were too busy engaging someone else.

 

You know some ships have no AA( stock ships) and enemy CVs always concentrate those ships. Now can you provide him with some support or you gonna do you own thing and let him die there???

 

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I'm sorry that WG made it such that there are strike and AS loadouts. I'm sorry if I ever took strike and outcontributed the enemy CV while you guys have to take a few bombs/torps. This is especially true for USN, whose strike loadouts have no fighters until T9 (idk why) and DBs are quite inconsistent with that huge drop circle.

 

While I would like to take AS loadouts for some quality "teamplay", often times I find that the team is not worth supporting. I often light up targets and my team never focuses those guys down. I take strike loadout so I can do it myself.

 

I'll say it right here: taking AS is generally not worth it unless you can shut down the air VERY well (not as easy as you think), and even then I think AS is mostly useful in 2v2 CV fights... which are not present at T8+. I take strike because I can ensure some form of useful contribution and carrying i.e. zoning and killing isolated/brazen ships which AS/balanced loadouts usually cannot do due to lack of strike potential.

 

The next time your CV takes out a DD/other ship early in the game or does a HUGE amount of damage, give him a compliment or even two if he was up against an AS loadout CV; it goes a long way to winning the game. CVs also get less rewards now overall (you would have to do AS and strike roles very well to earn as much as the old economy would let you) so give us a break.

 

Yeah before the 1CV per tier 8 - 10 game I shot down 57 planes(record) with my Lexington(Defensive loadout) and still got blame for doing not much because I only got 20k damage from bombing. They have no idea how many planes/ squadrons I have shot down to stop enemy squadrons bombing those losers.

 

Again, most player focus on surface most of time and usually have no attention to the sky, therefore they don't know what exactly is happening up in the sky...... until they see one squadron within a few kms from them and they'll start looking at the sky and open the chat, blame CV for letting ONE squadron to bomb them.

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Let me quote what I said

 

 

I didn't just say that because he took Strike loadout, I said maybe he failed with that loadout and then got blamed by teammates for his failure.

 

and I also said 

 

 

You know some ships have no AA( stock ships) and enemy CVs always concentrate those ships. Now can you provide him with some support or you gonna do you own thing and let him die there???

 

 

Well if a BB go alone somewhere then he's as good as dead anyway, a defensive loadout always escort the group of BB not a single BB with no AA charge out somewhere alone and request some escort.

 

If they're in a group with bunch of Cruiser(with good AA) then they have a certain level of air defense, CV should not be blamed for if only one squadron got close by because the fighter might be dealing with other squadron coming in which most players won't look at the sky and have no idea that's happening.

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CV is not easy to play and only players good at CV and understand it are qualified to blame other CV players playing shit, cause otherwise you have no idea what going on up in the sky while you focus only on the surface.

 

Oh really?? 

 

Let me tell you what happened to me when i tried to help a CV Hiryu. It was on map Shards everyone went lemming towards cap point C and CV was left at A and i stayed behind in my Bayern for him not to get killed. Gneisenau and Mogami were chasing him I stopped them from getting to him and he luckily ran away. then what i see was enemy CV concentrated on me now I asked him for support and He is just there doing his thing(running). I survived with half health. then I continued stopping Genisenau and Mogami with Shchors( Luckily they were not setting me on fire) then next wave TBs and DBs come in and he is still doing his thing(not doing anything) Now who should I blame??? you tell me should i blame my whole team or the CV who refused to protect me??

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I don't play CV so I don't have much of a comment.

but CV are unique ship in WoWs, basically they are 'balance breaker' , be good at it and they'll insanely OP, bad at it and they just for show.

simply fly a plane around, you already pissing off enemy DD (including me :D)

 

I don't like them, but I also never blame them for anything.

 

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come to think of it... why WG don't let player adjust their own load out?

like... you have CV and 5 empty slot, you and add plane any kind you want, all TB or all FT or mixing etc...

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Well If you're that much of a CV player then tell me what a CV player should do?? And Now a days CV players are shit. Yes I said it.

 

Tell me why did they blame you exactly.Maybe Because You used your Strike loadout and got rekt by enemy CV's fighters and did absolutely nothing for the team and yourself. Maybe Enemy CV was concentrating on a Single Allied BB and you didn't help him because you were too busy engaging someone else.

 

When your own teammates are blaming you then it is your fault or why would they even care if you're in the game or not.

 

Actually, looking at your stats, you are worst than the OP at playing CV, stop being a hypocrite. Until you play more than 3 CV games and experience the difficulties of CV game-play. Your opinions are irrelevant. Go play more CV and come back when you have at least 50 games and then maybe your opinion can be somewhat relevant

To OP, don't worry, most non-CV players won't know the difficulties of playing CV, including the guy above so if they whine, just ignore them, I normally explain my actions to them and if they still whines, boohoo, they can cry me a river.

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Aaditya_AJ you shouldn't risk your sorry arse to protect him anyway, running alone is as good as dead, that's the rule of thumb in the game.

 

You're willing go out there with him alone to die then I can't complain about it, plus I never go somewhere alone in my CV, multitasking where I go, oversee the battle and see where planes need to be is already hard enough for CV players sometimes, even for those who are good at it.

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Actually, looking at your stats, you are worst than the OP at playing CV, stop being a hypocrite. Until you play more than 3 CV games and experience the difficulties of CV game-play. Your opinions are irrelevant. Go play more CV and come back when you have at least 50 games and then maybe your opinion can be somewhat relevant

 

To OP, don't worry, most non-CV players won't know the difficulties of playing CV, including the guy above so if they whine, just ignore them, I normally explain my actions to them and if they still whines, boohoo, they can cry me a river.

 

Mean While you should check out OP's stats as well If you wanna judge a player by his stats and looks like he even skipped Ranger which tells me He doesn't have enough experience to play a T8 Lexington. 

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Mean While you should check out OP's stats as well If you wanna judge a player by his stats and looks like he even skipped Ranger which tells me He doesn't have enough experience to play a T8 Lexington. 

says the one with only 3 games on CV, stop trolling Aaditya_AJ you're no where qualify to judge my CV stats.

 

Skipping the Ranger is reasonable cause it pretty much the same with tier 6, apart from the planes being a bit better and the ship being a bit faster. Of course you're trying to arguing that cause you've no idea about CV and you have no idea the ranger is like a "filling" for the CV line. Keep trolling Aaditya_AJ

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