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What if Japan and America had teamed against germany?

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You know I have always been wondering what if Japan had sided with America against the Germans during World War 2? If the two Navy's used their capital ships Yamato, Musashi, Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin against the Germans what would that be like I think it would be fascinating to see how the battles would have played out and whether or not it would have saved the Yamato and Musashi to this day.

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RIP, GERMAN ALONE CAN;T FIGHT THE MIGHTY ROYAL NAVY AND AIR FORCE

where did you get that wild idea?

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where did you get that wild idea?

 

2nd that

 

View PostNZLBROTHERS2016, on 05 October 2016 - 04:31 PM, said:

and whether or not it would have saved the Yamato and Musashi to this day.

 

Not sure... probably only Yamato...

 

You know how much to build one of that battleships right? *Scrap one of them*

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I think Japan would be more pre-occupied with the Soviets along the Manchurian border than contributing anything major to the land or even naval war in Western Europe. 

 

And like others have said, Adding the IJN in the Atlantic/Mediterranean would just be overkill against the Kriegsmarine.

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First, whats the cause of the war, second, speaking strategically the Americans and Japan would win as they have, better ships, more men and more planes. Pretty much a one sided victory. 

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An alliance between America and Japan during that era was near impossible anyway, different ideology.

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Japan joining the war on the side of the Allies would not have been very beneficial for them. Their main intention in the Sino-Japanese War was to occupy the coastal (read: profitable) areas of China. However, with a nation of several hundred million against you, you would really have to keep going until Nationalist China decisively surrendered (as well as avoid incidents like the Nanjing massacre, which helped turn Western opinion sharply against Japan and spawned fears of Japanese expansionism).
 

Assuming that they managed to pull it off, where else is there to go after that? Indochina could realistically be annexed by Japan under the pretext of the territory belonging to a 'Nazi ally', but the oil fields of Brunei and Indonesia would be closed off to you, as well as Burma and the Philippines.

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without pear harbor american navy will not aggressively rebuild their navy, so they will stay with stock dreadnought era battleship like the colorado and new mexico class. and although Imperial japan has huge navy all of their battleship are only equip with outdated rangefinder and not a single radar while german naval gunner are proven deadly accurate along with better radar system.

 

the matching point are the carrier. Japan alone has largest Carrier fleet during the beginning of the war. and luftwaffle will be limited by their range operation in protecting their capital ship while IJN can protect their allies and strike at the same time.

 

its hard, maybe you should ask cody from alternative history for this.

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Dude can you merge all your alternate history in one post plz, make it easier for everyone. 

Result would have been Germans get rekt because radar guided 460mm nuclear shells

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its hard, maybe you should ask cody from alternative history for this.

 

Alternatively, just think on your own?

 

View PostShadoPulse, on 05 October 2016 - 06:50 PM, said:

How about we change this with, how about if the Russians joined the Axis?

 

Russia did...

 

Russia would probably make no offensive moves until 1941-1942 before expanding from the Caucasus into Persia and the Middle East. There would probably also be indirect conflict with Japan through Communist China.

 

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Alternatively, just think on your own?

 

 

Russia did...

 

Russia would probably make no offensive moves until 1941-1942 before expanding from the Caucasus into Persia and the Middle East. There would probably also be indirect conflict with Japan through Communist China.

 

Russia did what? May I remind you that the Allied throw its friend into German hand while ussr support the Republican Spain against the the fascist. Poland wouldn't even get occupied if the Allied accept Stalin offer of a combined 2 front attack on the reich 2 weeks before Poland got blitz. So don't act like the USSR was the bad guy and France, Britain was the good guy

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The Soviets were kind of 'allied' with germany for the beginning of WW2 until they began barbarossa. 

 

Until then Russia had invaded Poland with them and sent in resources. 


Anyway a fascist state and communist state being real allies was impossible anyway so eh.

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The Soviets were kind of 'allied' with germany for the beginning of WW2 until they began barbarossa. 

 

Until then Russia had invaded Poland with them and sent in resources. 

 

Anyway a fascist state and communist state being real allies was impossible anyway so eh.

 

It was not THAT impossible. What if Adolf Hitler's beliefs took a different turn and became more closely aligned with Strasserism and its anti-capitalist rhetoric, instead of what we know about him today?

 

So don't act like the USSR was the bad guy and France, Britain was the good guy

 

Uh...never did insinuate anything of the sort.

 

MFF's elaboration was right; the Soviet Union was in the Axis with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (technically). The Winter War would still happen with Soviet Union and Finland, which would expose just how brutally underprepared the Soviet Army was and in turn force them to reorganise (which should've taken them until 1941-1942). After that, where can they go (if Germany was their ally)?

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