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so this is the reason why i rarely score citadel against other battleship with my Bismarck..

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i though i'm the only one having hard time scoring citadel against battleship with bismarck. it turns out she has hard time scoring citadel against battleship even against lightly armoured amagi.

 

 

and i though bismarck are so good at close quarter battle.  :(

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amagi is a exception, unless you know where to aim, the shells will either bounce, overpenn, or just do regular damage, it is almost stupid how troll the amagi's armor is

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amagi is a exception, unless you know where to aim, the shells will either bounce, overpenn, or just do regular damage, it is almost stupid how troll the amagi's armor is

 

really? i have no problem scoring citadel on her with 16" guns of my colorado.

 

i mange to score citadel against twice yesterday with bismarck. one low hp and one with almost full HP, i shot her on the upper part near her front guns and i score a citadel. but yeah most of the time i fire at broadsiding amagi i score bounce or overpen, it really rustle my jimmies.

 

care to share where should we aim to deal heavy damage against her?

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That's because Bismarck has 380mm while Colorado has 406mm, some caliber shennanigans happen here.

Try to compare it with Tirpitz who has same guns

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Amagi citadel lays slightly bellow waterline

Bismark / Tirpitz gun arent good enough for Bellow water penetration

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the shell is so fast, resulting trajectory is so flat, that the shell dont "dive" into citadel - it just pass and explode overhead the citadel

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Amagi rides low which makes sniping its citadel pretty hard, and when it angles good luck to even do damage against it with 15" guns or less

That being said, the citadel is still there. I've oneshotted an Amagi with my Bismarck before.

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It's explained in the reddit thread Aeroon posted this in. Amagi has a low-lying citadel, and her belt armour is backed by another angled layer behind. Bismarck's (and Tirpitz's) light 15" shells will pen the belt, but ricochet off the top of the citadel armour. 16" shells are more likely to punch right through.

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Amagi is a little bit tricky to citadel because she rides really low in the water for battleships, regardless, I've citadeled multiple amagis before with plunging shells

 

And it's annoying because the exact same happens with north carolina 

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But I get random pen hits as well when I play Amagi (well, I never go broadside). Its like you bow tank one salvo completely, and the next one enemy randomly gets 8K damage.

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i though i'm the only one having hard time scoring citadel against battleship with bismarck. it turns out she has hard time scoring citadel against battleship even against lightly armoured amagi.

 

 

 

I don't wanna get to conclusions untill I know each and every ship's capability to citadel it's counter part

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I don't have any issues with Amagi, even if I don't get a citadel a few normal pen will also shave 10-20k off her HP pool easily

 

Problem is that NCs are really hard to citadel at close range, even in an amagi...

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Problem is that NCs are really hard to citadel at close range, even in an amagi...

 

True, the only thing to do if NC is close is to try and knock out those guns. Or any competent NC player will mess up your day :P I usually hold my fire in close brawls so that I can hit the sweet spots (haha yeah, you need to know where to hit on shich ship from what angle for max output). (For example tirpitz and bismarck can be citadelled from the front turrets).

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True, the only thing to do if NC is close is to try and knock out those guns. Or any competent NC player will mess up your day :P I usually hold my fire in close brawls so that I can hit the sweet spots (haha yeah, you need to know where to hit on shich ship from what angle for max output). (For example tirpitz and bismarck can be citadelled from the front turrets).

 

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Best thing to do in a bismarck against an NC in short range is to use your agility as advantage and burn him with your secondaries. Kill him slowly but steadily while angling your ship to bounce those APs

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Best thing to do in a bismarck against an NC in short range is to use your agility as advantage and burn him with your secondaries. Kill him slowly but steadily while angling your ship to bounce those APs

 

Broadside of NC is always a juicy target. Yeah, NCs rudder is so painfully slow.

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