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How to increase WTR?

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I want to increase WTR ratings of my ships, so that I can pretend I'm a pro and fool people. But observing how WTR for the last few days, I'm not sure how to move that quickly.

 

Do I need to do more damage than server average or my average?

Do I need to get more base exp than server average or my average?

Do I must get kills?

Do I must place in top X of my team in end battle score?

Do I need to play specific ships more?

 

Which of the following property move it quickly? Damage? Exp? Score Position? Kills?

 

You might say WTR means nothing, that will mean nothing for you, not for me. I want to see that I am making a progress.

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If I play BB I can increase my average damage, at the expense of average exp or possibly KD.

If I play DD I can increase my average exp, at the expense of average damage and surely KD cause I am for sure going to die.

I cannot play CA at all, and not going to play CV either cause that is way too hard.

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Yearg, I want to know as well.

 

Everything went up in my stats over the past 700 battles but WTR only went up by 28 points.

 

Stein wants to achieve pretend-unicum levels of stats because Stein is a soulless rock that obsesses over artificial ratings.

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Do I need to do more damage than server average or my average?

Do I need to get more base exp than server average or my average?

Do I must get kills?

Do I must place in top X of my team in end battle score?

Do I need to play specific ships more?

 

1. Yeah, in line with number 5, it will increase WTR substantially if you do this with regard to server average.

2. Fairly sure EXP isn't calculated as so due to premium effect on it and that third-party stats cannot differentiate true base EXP or premium base EXP. An indirect yes since usually more damage = more EXP.

3. Yes, it is calculated. Also plane kills weighing 1/20.

4. Doesn't really count but since being topX in team means playing well, then indirect yes.

5. In line with the first, some ships have really low averages, meaning a normal game in them can give a substantial WTR increase.

EDIT: for ships that have really high averages, an 'average' game in it may even lower your WTR.

 

EDIT2: As long as there's improvement, it will increase on its own anyway.

And no, I won't delve into WTR's viability as it is only one side of the story.

Edited by SZYZWY

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Super Tester
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WTH Kill-steal here I come. I can steal a lot of kills every game if I want to, now I have no choice.

 

So I need to look for ships with poor server stats, alright. No wonder playing blyska isn't helping much. I need to learn to Sims.

 

 

And no, I won't delve into WTR's viability as it is only one side of the story.

 

I want to kill myself (not literally) everytime I read your WTR and will my account to Stein.

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Stock Bogue's a pretty good way to screw with WTR. Otherwise, yeah, look for other unpopular ships with low average damage - if you can consistently get higher than the server average damage, your WTR will soar.

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Stock Bogue's a pretty good way to screw with WTR. Otherwise, yeah, look for other unpopular ships with low average damage - if you can consistently get higher than the server average damage, your WTR will soar.

 

That makes sense to me as when i ground through the Pensacola that has a low WTR and i was performing well above the average i did see a spike in my WTR. 

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forget about it. i derp again.

 

so basically its damage. kills

not sure if survivability is counted. i really have low survivablity though

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Average Damage is weighted 50%.

Frags/Kills is weighted 30%

Wins is weighted 20%

 

So for high WTR, focus on getting high average damage in proportion to server average, and get multiple kills each match.

 

From what I see, battleships are the most difficult ships to get high WTR on, as the server average damage is already quite high, and their slow RoF makes it difficult to get a lot of kills consistently. On the other hand, I find it pretty easy to get high WTR on DD, because they have low server average damage and you can get a lot of kills by focusing on DDs. Also, as some other said, doing well on unpopular or lower tier ships can make your WTR soar.

 

But to be honest, I don't see the benefit in spamming unpopular or lower tier ships just to get high WTR. You might see your WTR progressively gets higher, when it's actually just an illusion made by manipulating the numbers. I'd rather get high WTR on ships that i actually like, it's much more meaningful. But well, to each their own.

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Average Damage is weighted 50%.

Frags/Kills is weighted 30%

Wins is weighted 20%

 

So for high WTR, focus on getting high average damage in proportion to server average, and get multiple kills each match.

 

From what I see, battleships are the most difficult ships to get high WTR on, as the server average damage is already quite high, and their slow RoF makes it difficult to get a lot of kills consistently. On the other hand, I find it pretty easy to get high WTR on DD, because they have low server average damage and you can get a lot of kills by focusing on DDs. Also, as some other said, doing well on unpopular or lower tier ships can make your WTR soar.

 

But to be honest, I don't see the benefit in spamming unpopular or lower tier ships just to get high WTR. You might see your WTR progressively gets higher, when it's actually just an illusion made by manipulating the numbers. I'd rather get high WTR on ships that i actually like, it's much more meaningful. But well, to each their own.

does average exp counted? i have high average exp on dd but lower damage...

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does average exp counted? i have high average exp on dd but lower damage...

 

I can't say for certain, but probably not. The exp shown on both worldofwarships.asia and warships.today also takes premium time into account, so they probably can't use it for weighting.

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I can't say for certain, but probably not. The exp shown on both worldofwarships.asia and warships.today also takes premium time into account, so they probably can't use it for weighting.

 

They look like only considering base exp to me though.

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They look like only considering base exp to me though.

 

Well, according to warships.today my Mahan has 2667 avg XP. I'm pretty sure I'm not that kind of DD super unicum that can achieve that amount of base XP every match. :D

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XP is proving to be a bit tricky for me to achieve, I do many 100K+ damage games where I get 5th or 6th place in team in terms of base exp cause most of the damage were on other battleships. Really interested to know what these good battleships player do to get 1.5K-2K or over average exp. For DDs, it is easier to get by capping and defending and damaging other DDs. 

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Though in terms of WTR I am the top 100 player in SEA, I don't like its calculation at all.

I like PR on wow-numbers rather than WTR. Its calculation is much more scientific !!

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Well, according to warships.today my Mahan has 2667 avg XP. I'm pretty sure I'm not that kind of DD super unicum that can achieve that amount of base XP every match. :D

 

I can see there my Blyska has 1,276 average xp. As far as I remember this is what I get in terms of base xp, my exp (due to this being premium) is a lot more, like around 2.5K-4K. But I have heard that warships today used to take exp into account and didn't refresh older data. Might be that case too. And you are extremely good I know that.

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Does it really matter about WTR? i find stats matter less so in WOWs compared to WOT.

 

I've seen those who stats are average playing as good as any purple blue players.

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I can see there my Blyska has 1,276 average xp. As far as I remember this is what I get in terms of base xp, my exp (due to this being premium) is a lot more, like around 2.5K-4K. But I have heard that warships today used to take exp into account and didn't refresh older data. Might be that case too. And you are extremely good I know that.

 

Hmm... I don't think it's a case of old data. I both bought the Mahan and finished her grind within last month, so the data should be relatively new.

 

Then, let's use other ships as comparison. The Nagato. My stats and yours in the Nagato is almost similar in avg dmg, but yours have much higher win rate and KDR. And yet, you have 1203 avg XP, while I have 1635 avg XP. It makes no sense that I got much higher XP when I did worse than you in almost every other stats. Unless it takes into account that I have premium time, which adds +50% to my base XP. And IIRC, you're not using premium account, are you?

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WTR is crap or better stop looking at those E-peenis stimulator viagras. But if E-peen stimulation is your thing, best way to increase that failure of a stat called WTR is to last hit since WTR factors frags rather highly in their equation.

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Does it really matter about WTR? i find stats matter less so in WOWs compared to WOT.

 

I've seen those who stats are average playing as good as any purple blue players.

 

I don't use it to compare with others or to judge players though. I just take not if my numbers are increasing. Like I said in the first post, it is not really going to make me instantly better, I just want to look that way :D

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Well, Icy, you might have to change your play-style a little bit. If you want a decent WTR boost you have to do spectacularly better than the average and that's hard to do in mid-high tier BB's with their limited ROF. So if you excel in DD's and cruisers the WTR boost will come. You have played less then 1000 games so you are still trying new ships, maps,tactics so you haven't reached maximum efficiency yet.

 

But I wouldn't pick a poorly performing ship to use to do it. There's pretty good reasons why it is poorly performing. Use something you like. You are good enough, I've seen you play. You are aggressive and that's good but you have to watch you don't become too aggressive and die too early in the game.

 

Small tip when playing cruisers. Don't be that guy that gets detected first. Players lock on and fixate on you. I use to charge in to get into position early then get focus-fired on by half the team which continued to try to hit me while I was evading and running even though there were many many easier and closer targets available. Let a potato lead the way and you can often do your thing without getting focus-fired.

 

Probably concentrate more on damage dealing than kills. Kills are important but if another teammate can kill an almost dead target and a better target comes available then switch to it.

 

Try to increase your survival rate, the longer you live the more damage you deal, the better for your team and you. You are an aggressive player so you won't end up being a camping sniper, but if you get targeted by ships and carriers more often than an average player look to reasons why that is. Be a bit selfish. If a potato gets in trouble, let him die. Don't push to save him if it becomes high risk to yourself. You will more than likely be the main damage dealer in your team most of the time, or should be considering your skills. Better him to die than you or better than him AND you dying. Potatoes are potatoes, they die stupidly and quickly all the time.

 

Also, your commanders may not be fully upskilled yet. For cruiser captains Xmas comes when you get the Lvl 4 Explosive expert skill. Damage dealing increases significantly.

 

PS. Don't worry about comparing yourself to SZYZWY, he's a freak. Just tip your hat and move on.

Edited by Killzone650

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Easy tell MM to stop putting you on the loosing side like 10 times in a row.

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@Killzone650, thanks man, Ya I remember we played together. However, today I played so bad I'm sure that I need to git gud a lot before worrying about WTR. However, I have no plans to play ships I don't like. Ships I like are hard to do well with, cause people are so much better in them already. And you are correct , I die a lot, cause often I charge in only to find that I have no backup. Yes, getting WTR to rise with BB is hard task.

 

@Razide, being in the losing team isn't a problem. If you do good , WTR should still increase.

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