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its been a while for having no new IJN premium ships. here are some of my thoughts.

 

1. CL: Agano. There is no modern CL for IJN cruiser line, the last CL being Kuma before going to CA Furutaka。IJN did not have too much attention on designing modern CLs, but still managed to build Agano class and Oyodo class. I dont think Oyodo will fit into the game mechanism, but Agano can definetely be introduced as a competent premium CL, either tier 5 or tier 6.  destroyer-like maneuverability, and nimble size and high concealment on sacrifice of fire power.

 

2. DD: Akizuki. Many people already talked about it, so not much to say. Japanese version of gunboat/AA destroyer.

 

3.CV:Akagi or Kaga. Such a famous ships still not yet in the game, and funny that sometimes the CV challenges uses Akagi `s picture, but there is no Akagi in the game! Both Akagi and Kaga were old fashioned CV when people still believe the gun fight will be involved if their cv runs out planes, so they still have heavy-cruiser grade guns. so as premium ships, maybe Akagi or Kaga can be first CV with primary guns instead of secondary guns?

 

4.CV: Shinano. biggest CV in the world during that period. third ship of Yamato class and turned into CV. In history, it was intended as a front line armored CV that provide service to other CV s aircraft. In the game, as unique premium ships, it can be the only CV that can recover HP like other tier 9 cruisers and all other battleships.

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shinano: WG already said that there will be no tier IX and X premium so i doubt it. if maybe she will show up on event as boss ship but they wont sell her as premium ship.

 

agano: i think they will appear once WG has decided to split cruiser line into CL and CA.

 

akizuki: someone already answered that she will not be release as premium. check out azikuki thread.

 

akagi kaga: i hope their repair is not going to be expensive :trollface:

 

joking aside. kaga can be in tier 7 premium cv. (don't put me together with 5th division kids) with 90 planes at her disposal. the problem is probably her low AA rating. but she can use her planes to overwhelm her enemies.

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Ise/Hyuga carrier hybrid if they can fix the issues with such ships (like Tone and Mogami). Or Mutsu.

Isuzu AA LC.

Maybe the Junyo CV at T5?

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Ise/Hyuga carrier hybrid if they can fix the issues with such ships (like Tone and Mogami). Or Mutsu.

Isuzu AA LC.

Maybe the Junyo CV at T5?

 

Yeah, a converted passenger liner like Junyo should be more than a match for the slow old Bogue :P

 

Regarding Premiums Currently I believe the Devs Mentioned the Tone with its 8x2 all forward armament is coming soon to Tier 7?

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shinano: WG already said that there will be no tier IX and X premium so i doubt it. if maybe she will show up on event as boss ship but they wont sell her as premium ship.

 

DD 666 Black is Tier IX - Premium USN DD

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DD 666 Black is Tier IX - Premium USN DD

 

No DD-579? :trollface:

 

btw, Agano would be nice. Or Yahagi could work since she escorted Yamato in Ten-Go

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No DD-579? :trollface:

 

btw, Agano would be nice. Or Yahagi could work since she escorted Yamato in Ten-Go

 

 

But didnt some sauce says its for next RB prize? :hmm:

 

Black - Fletcher class

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its been a while for having no new IJN premium ships. here are some of my thoughts.

 

1. CL: Agano. There is no modern CL for IJN cruiser line, the last CL being Kuma before going to CA Furutaka。IJN did not have too much attention on designing modern CLs, but still managed to build Agano class and Oyodo class. I dont think Oyodo will fit into the game mechanism, but Agano can definetely be introduced as a competent premium CL, either tier 5 or tier 6.  destroyer-like maneuverability, and nimble size and high concealment on sacrifice of fire power.

 

2. DD: Akizuki. Many people already talked about it, so not much to say. Japanese version of gunboat/AA destroyer.

 

3.CV:Akagi or Kaga. Such a famous ships still not yet in the game, and funny that sometimes the CV challenges uses Akagi `s picture, but there is no Akagi in the game! Both Akagi and Kaga were old fashioned CV when people still believe the gun fight will be involved if their cv runs out planes, so they still have heavy-cruiser grade guns. so as premium ships, maybe Akagi or Kaga can be first CV with primary guns instead of secondary guns?

 

4.CV: Shinano. biggest CV in the world during that period. third ship of Yamato class and turned into CV. In history, it was intended as a front line armored CV that provide service to other CV s aircraft. In the game, as unique premium ships, it can be the only CV that can recover HP like other tier 9 cruisers and all other battleships.

 

1. Agano-class can be part of a separate cruiser line, as what could also happen on the USN second cruiser line (as they say)....that is what I can suggest. The Agano-class is the most superior CL's the IJN had,  tier 5 at best (Ooyodo can take the spot of a prem ship, as she is unique in her own as the successor of the Agano-class, and also being the solo ship of her class, tier 5 also; but if no separate cruiser line, Agano will take tier 5 prem, Ooyodo on tier 6, or both can be at same tier, could be 5 or 6)

 

2. Akizuki-class (with "Terubozu" and Hatsuzuki) is one of the good destroyer candidate for a prem ship (the very first IJN DD to have a radar), as a DD dedicated with lots of AA guns, and the only class that mounted four Type 98 dual-purpose guns (or in KC lingo, the 10cm High-Angle; the supposedly main AA defense guns of the successor of the Yamato-class, the Design A-150)......... due to the purpose of being the AA-platform, the three sisters only have a single torpedo launcher (with reloads), so this ship can be good at tier 7 at best (or if there are whining commoners about this being OP, this can be tier 8). 

 

3. Akagi and Kaga are originally BB hulls (Kaga from the Tosa-class [slightly larger from Nagato-class], Akagi from the Amagi-class [slightly larger than Tosa-class]. With a size that large, they can have good aircraft capacity, but since they are older than the Hiryuu/Shokaku classes and they are a bit, tall/large, they are an easy target even for a ship in-game that has the worst accuracy :D, so best if implemented in-game, Akagi can be in tier 7, Kaga in tier 8 (or vice versa, since they are both big, and for me, both are considered "bauxite" consumers) :teethhappy:

 

 

4. Shinano is basically a Yamato-class hull that is being made as a CV instead being a BB like Yamato and Musashi themselves........instead of being a prem ship, why not replace Hakuryu with this ship (as the current tier 10 is just like a little improvement of the tier 9 [and historical] Taihou)

 

 

 

Ise/Hyuga carrier hybrid if they can fix the issues with such ships (like Tone and Mogami). Or Mutsu.
Isuzu AA LC.
Maybe the Junyo CV at T5?

 

Ise/Hyuuga can be on a separate line, or could replace someone in the current IJN BB line (like moving Amagi to 9 [remove that Izumo], moving up Nagato to 8, and Ise/Hyuuga fills tier 7).......being a prem ship because it can/will be a hybrid BB/CV, no hints about it, since WG keeps telling that it is not possible to have that kind of gameplay....................yet

 

about Junyou or any CVL's of IJN, probably another line, as the CV line of the USN can also have an another line for the Escort ones...

 

 

 

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Edited by IJN_Akashi

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Yeah, a converted passenger liner like Junyo should be more than a match for the slow old Bogue :P

 

Regarding Premiums Currently I believe the Devs Mentioned the Tone with its 8x2 all forward armament is coming soon to Tier 7?

 

it is already considered part of the tech tree as a tier 7, but no models for now.....

 

 

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Sure, Kaga as tier 7 premium. Make her the polar opposite of Saipan: If Saipan lets you control 4 squadrons with tier 9 planes, Kaga lets you control 8 squadrons with tier 5 planes (323 or 413 setup).

Or if 8 is too much, then 9.

'Course the price she'd pay would be less AA than Ryujo, moves slower than Hiryu.

 

Yep, crazy crazy idea. Well, not like the devs would listen to such outrageous idea anyways xD

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- I kinda disagree about the Agano class being a premium ship as there will be probably a separate line for it. I'll bet Nagara/Sendai for Tier 4 and Agano in Tier 5 but it'll be better if Ooyodo will be as a premium ship.

- Akizuki as a premium DD will be good to me as she's a unique destroyer.

- I'm desperately waiting for Akagi/Kaga to appear as a premium CV that they're on my buylist if WG decides to sell it but if the current CV's Hiryu and Shokaku are better then I think I'll pass on buying it. Probably Akagi/Kaga will be on T7 or T8.

- For Shinano, It's better to replace Hakuryu with it as she's the largest carrier of the IJN Navy ever existed.

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Musashi for Yamato Hull B.

 

To make its AA not too much of a joke.

 

but iirc muashi suffered AA problem because she fire her guns while her AA crew are still on deck?

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but iirc muashi suffered AA problem because she fire her guns while her AA crew are still on deck?

 

Pls, as if that was a problem for every other ship in the game.

 

Large-caliber AA guns. On top of 406mm turrets.

AA batteries. Literally under a cannon barrel.

You know what ship you are.

 

There's no such thing as crew, we're sailing remotely-controlled ships, clearly.

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shinano: WG already said that there will be no tier IX and X premium so i doubt it. if maybe she will show up on event as boss ship but they wont sell her as premium ship.

 

agano: i think they will appear once WG has decided to split cruiser line into CL and CA.

 

akizuki: someone already answered that she will not be release as premium. check out azikuki thread.

 

akagi kaga: i hope their repair is not going to be expensive :trollface:

 

joking aside. kaga can be in tier 7 premium cv. (don't put me together with 5th division kids) with 90 planes at her disposal. the problem is probably her low AA rating. but she can use her planes to overwhelm her enemies.

 

Tier IX?

AND WHY USS BLACK is a tier IX?

Explain?

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Musashi for Yamato Hull B.

 

To make its AA not too much of a joke.

 

I think Musashi had stronger secondary than stronger AA. Look at the model, there are those Mogami turrets at the sides as well, but there are hardly much AA mounts.

 

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As you can see, Musashi lost secondary turrets but got improved AA, still not anywhere near to those of Yamato.

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I think Musashi had stronger secondary than stronger AA. Look at the model, there are those Mogami turrets at the sides as well, but there are hardly much AA mounts.

 

You just had to say it.

 

No one needed to know.

 

No one should've known.

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You just had to say it.

 

No one needed to know.

 

No one should've known.

 

Updated my previous post with images of line drawing, so that everyone can see *clearly* :D

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I think Musashi had stronger secondary than stronger AA. Look at the model, there are those Mogami turrets at the sides as well, but there are hardly much AA mounts.

 

 AWW6IaV.png

 

 UGVWigl.png

 

 u7pxY5T.png

 

As you can see, Musashi lost secondary turrets but got improved AA, still not anywhere near to those of Yamato.

 

 

Yamato still has the best AA than Musashi.........

 

with the Japanese lerning that CV's and planes can overshadow the might of battleships, they removed the extra 15.5cm's and placed lots of AA guns (in the case of the sisters, they were added with 12.7cmHA guns..........even with the original mounted 15.5cm's on her oldest configuration, the fact that it has slow RoF and shell velocity, and the fact that the 15.5cm's are not dual-purpose, it ain't for AA defense........

 

do be noted, that the Japanese had decided to mount lots of 10cmHA's for their plan on Design A-150, because the 100mm Type 98 is better suited for AA defense.....

 

 

 The slow rate of fire and limited elevation of these guns made them unsuitable for the AA role, but they were an excellent anti-ship weapon.

 

 

 

 

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Edited by IJN_Akashi

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Ise/Hyuga carrier hybrid if they can fix the issues with such ships (like Tone and Mogami). Or Mutsu.

Isuzu AA LC.

Maybe the Junyo CV at T5?

 

I also like the ideas of Isuzu, perfect tier4 or even tier5 premium.

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Yamato still has the best AA than Musashi.........

 

with the Japanese lerning that CV's and planes can overshadow the might of battleships, they removed the extra 15.5cm's and placed lots of AA guns (in the case of the sisters, they were added with 12.7cmHA guns..........even with the original mounted 15.5cm's on her oldest configuration, the fact that it has slow RoF and shell velocity, and the fact that the 15.5cm's are not dual-purpose, it ain't for AA defense........

 

do be noted, that the Japanese had decided to mount lots of 10cmHA's for their plan on Design A-150, because the 100mm Type 98 is better suited for AA defense.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

:honoring:

these 100mm gun is very advanced and has very complicated design which limit its production, but dedicated AA destroyer Akizuki class have those mounted, and also CV Taiho and light cruiser Oyodo, in the game cruiser Ibuki seems have those as well but not sure in reality as they never finished construction. If my memory is right, then light cruiser Agano `s 76mm is in smiliar design as the 100mm.

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