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Hi everyone,

I'm just starting out on cv's and wanting some help.

I have the Hosho and played it in co-op to learn how to manual drop torps and strafe.

However, when I upgraded everything on the Hosho and had a 3 point (2 skill) captain, i got curbed stomped by the other side.  I was put into 2 battles, each with 4 cv on each side with a a T5 on each team.  I died in a short time each time.  Any suggestions to do better when I venture back out of co-op again?

 

Do I get better with the Hosho or wait until I get the T5 IJN CV?

Anything else? 

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Your planes are fragile and limited.

 

Don't force your fighters to engage higher-tier fighters

 

Check the enemy's AA rating during the match countdown. Hover your mouse over them- Anything with AA below 20 is a good target for Hosho.

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Thanks,

I already do that.  It's nice to have a hard number to stay away from with ships.

However, how do I get my fighters to break off when the other side is T5 and pushing me?

That's how they got my fighters, by the way I was the only IJN CV in each match, any way to practice against USN planes in Co-op when I am the only cv hanging out in there?

 

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try hovering your fighters above allied ships with strong AA, usually cruisers or US BBs. If being chased by enemy fighters, lure them to flying to high AA ships before engaging.

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If you have two squads of fighters have then fight together. Don't take my advices seriously tho I haven't even gone past langley (I prefer guns) but I have seen people do it and it is effective. Should have posted this in Newcomers Zone btw

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I'm new to cv, not the game.

Really good with bb.

Looking for more advance advice than, learn to manual drop or move your ship.

Learned that by having cv target me.

But, still a question is.

When a higher tier cv has trapped your fighters with their greater speed, how do you break off?  Or do you have to suffer through it?

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unfortunately it's suffer through it.

The aim of the game is not to get caught out, or use 1 of your squadrons as bait and strafe the incoming attack.

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CVs: Let's play mindgames~

 

If you want general advice, always target and punish enemies who are alone, this also means sending your planes to the flank with the least number of allied ships in order to keep them alive longer.

 

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The Hosho is the weakest air to air CV. You will have to be on your guard against enemy fighters since pretty much anyone can stomp your fighter. Your fighters are fast, so use them to kite enemies. 

 

Another major thing is that carriers of higher tier can really stomp lower ones. Their planes are faster, tougher, and fighters deal more damage. You will need to work together with your allied CV to succeed in 2v2 CV fights.

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The Hosho barely has enough spares to replace each squadron once however the Langley cant even do that.

I would assume you're using Air group modification 1 for extra fighter hit points as the upgrade for slot 1 for the other slot  I would pick damage control system 1 not much of a boost to durability but I dont see the other 2 being more useful.

 

The captain skills to get depends on the ship and what you have in mind. for the hosho and other TB configurations the level 2 skill Torpedo armament expertise is a really good pick.

For level 1 skills there are 4 possible skills that could be useful. The only level 1 skill to avoid is expert loader as that has no effect for CVs. most people seem to go for situational awareness though I go for expert rear gunner. 

Level 3  any skill that is not superintendent would do for below T8.   The other skills depends on what you want but torpedo acceleration is good. l

Level 4 Aircraft servicing expert  is better than AFT. AFT is useful but it only affects your ship manual desgnation never used it might be ok is there is alot of sniping going on.

level 5 for low tier CVs there is only 1 skill i would recommend and that is concealment expert. As Air superiority only drains your reserves even faster.

 

Tactically you need to be careful with your planes but at  the same time aggressive.

What I typically do is escort my TBs with my fighter and once the enemy fighter is in range engages the enemy fighters.  Its a bit risky but the  CV on the other team will also have limited fighters as spares.  If my fighter had nothing to engage they are then looking for more targets to engage while my bombers rearm  that could be anything.

If fighting a Langley try to weaken their squadron before you engage and try to engage over friendlies or failing that neutral airspace. If the enemy CV is distracted you can strafe their fighters and knock down most of the squadron of fighters.

Run from T4 fighters if you're less than half ammo and full planes.

 

If you can get behind their strike aircraft strafe them that will reduce their threat significantly.

 

If youre fighting a Bogue there isnt much you can do.  the Air superiority will be able to React to you planes and chase down and kill them without even losing any of their own. I would consider it a win if you get torps to connect as a Hosho facing and air superiority Bogue. The balanced Bogue is still able to to do the same as the AS Bogue it will just take longer.

The Zuhio you will need to avoid their fighters and engaging that fighter unless it is over your friendly ships other wise you will lose.

 

If there are fighters camping over your CV it is pointless to send up your bombers as they will just get strafed.  Focus your AA and change your course and speed.

 

Try to avoid sitting still as you will just be a sitting duck.

 

This isn't the Be all and end all, there is lots more stuff to do with CVs

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Thanks for the loads of helpful advice.

Looks like I'm going to be spending more time in Co-Op for sure.  Got to get that manual drop right and bait and strafe.  Don't have those down very well yet. Well do more escort of myself in co-op even if I really don't need it.  Practice for sure.

 

By the way, does anyone know if xp cv players are doing a lot of seal clubbing? Because it occured to me, that Teir 5 would be great for cv seal clubbers. Or maybe I'm being paranoid.

 

 

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Thanks for the loads of helpful advice.

Looks like I'm going to be spending more time in Co-Op for sure.  Got to get that manual drop right and bait and strafe.  Don't have those down very well yet. Well do more escort of myself in co-op even if I really don't need it.  Practice for sure.

 

By the way, does anyone know if xp cv players are doing a lot of seal clubbing? Because it occured to me, that Teir 5 would be great for cv seal clubbers. Or maybe I'm being paranoid.

 

 

 

yes, for sure. There is this guy with over 4k battles in a Langley, forgot who it was. Someone link plz

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You will meet some CV players at tier IV and V that have 15 point commanders on them. I used to play on my Hosho a lot to sealclub and I can say I've met Hosho players with 5 fighter squadron for a couple of occasions.

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yes, for sure. There is this guy with over 4k battles in a Langley, forgot who it was. Someone link plz

 

You will meet some CV players at tier IV and V that have 15 point commanders on them. I used to play on my Hosho a lot to sealclub and I can say I've met Hosho players with 5 fighter squadron for a couple of occasions.

This seems kind of wrong to me.

Tier 4 CV is a place for newbies to learn how to cv, not be stat bumbers for frustrated cv players.

Could there be some special treatment for T4 cv players?  Only get other T4 cv even when double?

That would help with the seal clubbing, because when I did random those 2 times, everything seemed to be a hell of a whole lot better than anything i could even fly in the air, even the other T4 cvs and I had my Hosho fully upgraded too.

I wonder if seal clubbing in T4 cv is hurting the CV family by not letting in new people?

Comments?

Heck, this might even be worth a seperate post.

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This seems kind of wrong to me.

Tier 4 CV is a place for newbies to learn how to cv, not be stat bumbers for frustrated cv players.

Could there be some special treatment for T4 cv players?  Only get other T4 cv even when double?

That would help with the seal clubbing, because when I did random those 2 times, everything seemed to be a hell of a whole lot better than anything i could even fly in the air, even the other T4 cvs and I had my Hosho fully upgraded too.

I wonder if seal clubbing in T4 cv is hurting the CV family by not letting in new people?

Comments?

Heck, this might even be worth a seperate post.

 

T4 and T5 CVs are prime sealclubbing territory. I was guilty of doing this myself until I got bored and sold my langley (111 is OP in the right hands). 

 

Yeah, I actually feel bad for the new CV players because they make all the mistakes that you would expect (and get severely punished for it).

 

I heard rumors that these sealclubbers are bitter/salty CV captains that move to lower tiers to avoid the buffed AA... I hope it's not true.

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 seal clubbing territory for tier 4,5. but dont worry , training make u grow stronger.

tips, low tier map is very small, if possible find a island and stop beside it asap, or stop u ship at the edge of the map. those manual torpedo might not be so effect to kill u.

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Perfect your strafe, manual drop and keep map awareness. Also hosho planes are fragile, but kinda fast. Kite enemy planes over friendly AA, and strafe em. And since the yubari is back on sale, friendly yubari always help you against enemy fighter. in an uptiered 2v2 cv match? Well just hope your partner runs fighter loadout. Best of luck out there

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excuse me i wanna ask why do I sometimes see IJN CV with 5 aircraft per squadron, when IJN CV has only 4 aircraft per squadron. are there any tips to increase ammount of aircraft per squadron?

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excuse mei wanna askwhydo I sometimesseeIJNCVwith 5 aircraft per squadron, whenIJNCVhas only 4aircraft per squadron. are there any tips to increase ammount of aircraft per squadron?

 

There is a captain skill in 5th column, Air Superiority that increase the number of Fighter and Dive Bomber by 1

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There is a captain skill in 5th column, Air Superiority that increase the number of Fighter and Dive Bomber by 1

 

This skill is very important (and overpowered). CV players should get this skill ASAP.

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This skill is very important (and overpowered). CV players should get this skill ASAP.

 

Most OP in Saipan, look at all those bombers man. Also with AS the fighter squad is as big as standard IJN squad, with better speed, HP and firepower. 301 is the best for Saipan I believe, at least in ranked it is. The 220 is just not as useful

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