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Forum Improvement Suggestions [copied from EU]

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I recommend WG add a function to reply to individual posts. This will save space and add functionality to forums. As of current, if we wanted to reply to individual posts, we would have to quote it, using up a lot of space, then post it amongst a myriad of other posts. With the new design, it is possible for each post to have a "sub-thread" under it, in smaller text and textboxes semi-contained in the main box of the individual post. This way, all replies to a specific post will be listed with it, full listing able to be expanded upon request, while posts relating directly to the original thread topic will be posted normally in the main thread. An example of the superiority of this design is that it is possible to ban a sub-thread instead of the main thread if it is just a (personal) toxic argument polluting a main-thread. Allowing to select a "reply to [user]" function in form of "@[user]" will also help with the quoting and toxicity issues. Sub-thread replies will not allow editing unlike main-thread replies, for accountability issues. 

Then, building upon the first suggestion, to allow upvotes or downvotes be able to influence listing of posts. I am suggesting that we be allowed to filter post organization via "democratic" popularity as well as time. This way certain good posts will be able to be seen more easily. Listing via vote number is selectable for both main-thread posts and single post "sub-thread" replies. All voter names will be retrievable upon request for accountability issues.

Also, to add a democratic tagging function to main threads. This is to make the tags actually mean something. A single person posting a thread can miss a lot of useable tags, or not be sure of tagging etiquette, or just can't be bothered. If we allow users to input tags, then also vote on what tags they think are a good fit for the current thread, then organize the tags to appear via coloring and sequential order at the tag spaces, with tags having more votes appearing first and deeper in color, then people will be able to see easily what is being relevantly discussed in that thread. Tag searching will then also be meaningful. This will make forums much more informative, constructive and interesting and possibly entice more people to engage in positive forum activity. 

It may also be possible to enable internal linking (such as to a local WoWs wiki, for key words and concepts, even user-created words such as tactic descriptions) for key words by building upon democratic voting and tagging of important words to their source, or just descriptions. Over-word hovering then seeing relevant comments/poster-links via cursorside box (like an automatic right-click) can also be an option. In time, it may be possible to allow democratic linking and tagging of content, both official or not, between main-threads, forums, or even regions (with translation options).

As well, democratic reporting functions within the forums may allow for functions such as democratic vote-based anti-spam/toxicity disciplinary actions (autonomous to users, but info requestable by wg staff for accountability issues), as a potential massive influx of players may overwhelm the number of moderators so they cannot personally address every issue upon first report. 

In the future, functions such as integrated multimedia-support features, tools and interface organization for forums, so that the forums are not just a text-based user space. Expansions include optimized display modes and post content organizing structures for replays, custom-games, mod listing, tournaments, clans, documents and data organizing, offline wg/clan events, official merchandising, supportive links to other real-world organisations and related content, streaming, social media, stats, ratings and reviews, and much more. 

Futuristic functions such as algorithmic organizing of forums based on data analytics on the whole of information submitted, such as by all-time popular, discussions on recent changes (such as by patch), active topics and ideas, all presented via intuitional interface, such as snapshots/key quotes in mosaic/shutter interface, and maybe even organized by user-preference or personally interested topics. Automated categorizing of forum content may eventually be possible.

Thus personalization of forum experience via structural changes also include possibility of a personal centre or homepage, where one views their content subscriptions, forum activity, messaging and alerts, personal content {such as replays}, merchandising, rankings, blogs and social-media linking, etc. and much more to support, as needed, additions of stuff in the future. Personalization also include signature/avatar support, forum wallpapers and themes, etc. Rare prizes, achievements, links to in-game etc. may also be represented by "limited edition" avatar frames, etc.

 

Eventually this is to foster a user-based forum maintenance structure. Organized user activity and algorithms will be able to take a load off WG staff by helping to maintain forums. Users will help monitor discipline, organize content, foster communication between regions, etc. and make the forums much more organic. For example, main-thread posters will help maintain quality and do slight moderations of their own threads.


In the end, I would like to say that improvements can be sought from many places. Go to news and social-media websites and see how they handle information analytics and organising. Go to e-commerce websites to see how they handle merchandising. Go to entertainment websites and see how they handle features. Go to other forums and see the best of their forums. Best regards and good luck. You should probably hire a professional to be doing all this.

 

Eventually working on larger redesign/overhaul ideas which I will present to WG myself in the future. From KarmaQU-EU and OMNI-WS, with regards.

 

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I'd sincerely hate to give you a short reply to your long post, however, voting =/= democratic.

 

By all means, the forum posts are already chronologically sorted and regularly modded. This is democratic (ie equally represented) in that no posts are more visible than the rest. First come, first serve.

 

There's also the tagging feature: There's frankly no need to expand upon it greatly given that threads come and go based on the interests of the players, along with updated content. Heck, it's rarely used to search for content- In my opinion, anyway.

 

Then there's the issue of asking members to police themselves. There's a reason why moderators are screened and trained rather than let generic Joes imprint their opinions on everything with disregard for rules that are set in stone.

 

Also, if you want a sales pitch aimed towards WG, kindly do so outside a discussion forum meant to talk about in-game content, aye? You know, just like you did in your other thread in EU.

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This isn't a social network. This is a forum, works like any other forums. There's no need to implemented those kinds of thing:

- It wastes resource as a simple forum can just run fine on a web-hosting while things like Facebook can only run on multiple VPS because of such requirements (Cost)

- There's really nothing private when come to forum, not like social network (Privacy)

- They expect to be helped when it comes to forum, not chit chat things (Helpfulness)

Maybe you get fancy because "FB can do it, why cant this forum do anything like that" — read my comment :popcorn:

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Alpha Tester
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it's not democracy when the loudest clan/clans has the ability to spam upvotes, aka WoT forums.

 

if it ain't broke,don't fix it.

 

 

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I recommend WG add a function to reply to individual posts. This will save space and add functionality to forums. As of current, if we wanted to reply to individual posts, we would have to quote it, using up a lot of space, then post it amongst a myriad of other posts. With the new design, it is possible for each post to have a "sub-thread" under it, in smaller text and textboxes semi-contained in the main box of the individual post. This way, all replies to a specific post will be listed with it, full listing able to be expanded upon request, while posts relating directly to the original thread topic will be posted normally in the main thread. An example of the superiority of this design is that it is possible to ban a sub-thread instead of the main thread if it is just a (personal) toxic argument polluting a main-thread. Allowing to select a "reply to [user]" function in form of "@[user]" will also help with the quoting and toxicity issues. Sub-thread replies will not allow editing unlike main-thread replies, for accountability issues. 

 

* I take it you would prefer the forum to look/feel more like reddit, and sub threads do not help keep the toxicity away, it just hides it for longer.

Then, building upon the first suggestion, to allow upvotes or downvotes be able to influence listing of posts. I am suggesting that we be allowed to filter post organization via "democratic" popularity as well as time. This way certain good posts will be able to be seen more easily. Listing via vote number is selectable for both main-thread posts and single post "sub-thread" replies. All voter names will be retrievable upon request for accountability issues.

 

* Down votes were removed by WG due to trolling issues. do not require them back thanks.

Also, to add a democratic tagging function to main threads. This is to make the tags actually mean something. A single person posting a thread can miss a lot of useable tags, or not be sure of tagging etiquette, or just can't be bothered. If we allow users to input tags, then also vote on what tags they think are a good fit for the current thread, then organize the tags to appear via coloring and sequential order at the tag spaces, with tags having more votes appearing first and deeper in color, then people will be able to see easily what is being relevantly discussed in that thread. Tag searching will then also be meaningful. This will make forums much more informative, constructive and interesting and possibly entice more people to engage in positive forum activity. 

 

* Tags are available when the threads are created, no need to fix something not broken

It may also be possible to enable internal linking (such as to a local WoWs wiki, for key words and concepts, even user-created words such as tactic descriptions) for key words by building upon democratic voting and tagging of important words to their source, or just descriptions. Over-word hovering then seeing relevant comments/poster-links via cursorside box (like an automatic right-click) can also be an option. In time, it may be possible to allow democratic linking and tagging of content, both official or not, between main-threads, forums, or even regions (with translation options).

 

* What would be the point, other then making it easier for lazy people? If you make a thread, you could always add the required html yourself to link words or concepts

As well, democratic reporting functions within the forums may allow for functions such as democratic vote-based anti-spam/toxicity disciplinary actions (autonomous to users, but info requestable by wg staff for accountability issues), as a potential massive influx of players may overwhelm the number of moderators so they cannot personally address every issue upon first report. 

 

*NO, Just no. Massive issue with trolling/spamming. 

In the future, functions such as integrated multimedia-support features, tools and interface organization for forums, so that the forums are not just a text-based user space. Expansions include optimized display modes and post content organizing structures for replays, custom-games, mod listing, tournaments, clans, documents and data organizing, offline wg/clan events, official merchandising, supportive links to other real-world organisations and related content, streaming, social media, stats, ratings and reviews, and much more. 

 

* Forum does have multi media support, the forum/web pages will be expanded with relevant data when it is required by WG

Futuristic functions such as algorithmic organizing of forums based on data analytics on the whole of information submitted, such as by all-time popular, discussions on recent changes (such as by patch), active topics and ideas, all presented via intuitional interface, such as snapshots/key quotes in mosaic/shutter interface, and maybe even organized by user-preference or personally interested topics. Automated categorizing of forum content may eventually be possible.

 

* If you are referring to a keyword cloud, no thank you. more pain then gain

Thus personalization of forum experience via structural changes also include possibility of a personal centre or homepage, where one views their content subscriptions, forum activity, messaging and alerts, personal content {such as replays}, merchandising, rankings, blogs and social-media linking, etc. and much more to support, as needed, additions of stuff in the future. Personalization also include signature/avatar support, forum wallpapers and themes, etc. Rare prizes, achievements, links to in-game etc. may also be represented by "limited edition" avatar frames, etc.

 

*Good for a Social Media website like Facebook, Not required for a gaming forum.

 

Eventually this is to foster a user-based forum maintenance structure. Organized user activity and algorithms will be able to take a load off WG staff by helping to maintain forums. Users will help monitor discipline, organize content, foster communication between regions, etc. and make the forums much more organic. For example, main-thread posters will help maintain quality and do slight moderations of their own threads.

 

* We already have this - they are called Moderators!!


In the end, I would like to say that improvements can be sought from many places. Go to news and social-media websites and see how they handle information analytics and organising. Go to e-commerce websites to see how they handle merchandising. Go to entertainment websites and see how they handle features. Go to other forums and see the best of their forums. Best regards and good luck. You should probably hire a professional to be doing all this.

 

Eventually working on larger redesign/overhaul ideas which I will present to WG myself in the future. From KarmaQU-EU and OMNI-WS, with regards.

 

If I want social media, I will go to a social media web site, but this is a gaming forum, it does the job it was designed to do, and it does it well. Just a point of interest though, when trying to tell a business like WG to go visit other forums/social sites to see how they handle features is not a good way to convince said company to do so.

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Super Tester
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How I wish that when forum user is about to submit the thread he gonna publish, the forum will give suggestion of existing threads that are related to what he write before he could publish it. Because FRANKLY, I don't want to see another "will submarine get implemented?", "kamikaze planes where??", etc. threads. :P

 

gib +1 plox?? :hiding:

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How I wish that when forum user is about to submit the thread he gonna publish, the forum will give suggestion of existing threads that are related to what he write before he could publish it. Because FRANKLY, I don't want to see another "will submarine get implemented?", "kamikaze planes where??", etc. threads. :P

 

gib +1 plox?? :hiding:

 

Kamikaze Submarines where?

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