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Seriously why even bother grinding a Battleship of any Nation?

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WG you need to focus on re-balancing your ships.

There is little to no enjoyment playing a high tier BB.

The AA when fully upgraded cannot stop a CV of similar or even lower tier from getting to with 1.2km of your BB.

It can then launch a full salvo of torpedoes that arm in under 500yards which is just BS.

You cannot maneuver to avoid them too big and slow.

All you can do is stay back and try shooting from long ranges which means your hit ratio sux's.

 

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Im not sure why everyone complains about CVs with BBs? I love when they come at my BB, with all the AA and my captains skills dedicated to taking them out.

Heck ive gotten clear sky as an Amagi. Its too easy at times!

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1.) The AA when fully upgraded cannot stop a CV of similar or even lower tier from getting to with 1.2km of your BB.

    - That's what Cruisers are for, stay near one and it'll swat those pesky planes for you

 

2.) It can then launch a full salvo of torpedoes that arm in under 500yards which is just BS. You cannot maneuver to avoid them too big and slow.

    - Sure you can, if you looked at your map you can actually anticipate an incoming air attack and if you did my suggestion in question #1 CVs will be pressured to drop their torps instead of taking their sweet time to attack you and from there you can predict when and where the attack will come and turn inwards from there and take minimal or no damage at all.

 

3.) All you can do is stay back and try shooting from long ranges which means your hit ratio sux's.

   - Patience, BBs are a patient man's tub... Long range attacks do s*ck and RNG makes it worse. The only remedy I know is to get close but being smart about it means you need to get close at the right moment, screw this up and you're in deep doo doo...

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The longer you are alive the more damage you do...

I frequently spend entire matches without getting within 16km of an enemy ship in my Kongo.

Yet I can still reliably punch out 50-100k damage most games.

 

As for CV problems, play with the team - play in div with a friend with AA spec CA.

Generally speaking good CV players go for the easiest target, generally BBs. By not having an AA CA escort, you are asking for trouble.

Now granted, you don't always get decent AA CA players on your team, I still usually see 1-2 per match in Tier 7+ if you are going to be a target, stay near them.

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well I will say BB are not as good as they use to be.

  you use to be able to attack in a BB, but at this stage the game forces you to stay back and camp at the back of the map, and try to snipe at long range.

when game was first released players did nothing but camp in a BB and so many players complained about the camping BB, so they gave the BB a bit of a buff, but now it seems we are right back to were we started and its back to camping with BBs.

yes DDs are spose to spot, followed by cruisers and then the BB, but as soon as the enemy fires at the cruisers, they turn and run and the BB gets left all by him self, the BB is to slow to turn and run away with the cruisers, so he gets burned to death really quickly, or  he gets set upon by CV aircraft as he has poor AA protection and cant turn to dodge the torpedos dropped at him.

The high level of fires on BBs now has stopped the BB from being an attacking weapon and its just a camper.

Also players use to just park their BB bow on to the enemy so he couldn't get citadel and just shoot everything but I guess WG increased the fire chance on BBs to try and stop this from happening and you do see less players parking their BBs

 

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There must always be some people who think BB should be impervious to aircrafts. :sceptic:

No, Aircrafts were the reason why Battleships became obsolete in real life, and real life demonstrated how Carriers rolfstomped even the mightiest Battleship. The same applies to this game, though here Battleships actually stand better chance since Carriers don't send out as many Bombers as they do in real life.

 

Remember this:

DD/CV > BB > CA

 

Battleship isn't a friendly class for inexperienced players, you need skills to do well in them. Are BB balanced or not, I can't answer such question.

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Heh, trying to be immortal Battleship against enemy planes? Tell that to Yamato & Musashi.

And yeah regarding your bad hit ratio from long range, that's called balanced as your class can't overpowered other ship class. Well-placed 2 battleship's AP shells hitting the cruiser's citadels are enough to reduce his health down to 1/3 HP left, that's the enjoyment of playing battleship.

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why do BBs need to stay near CA? for AA.? look who got more AA.? BBs or CA.? BBs right? why do CA kills more planes compared to BBs? example: cleveland. this CA can kill your planes in just few sec. . like it's straffing your planes...lol

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Heh, trying to be immortal Battleship against enemy planes? Tell that to Yamato & Musashi.

And yeah regarding your bad hit ratio from long range, that's called balanced as your class can't overpowered other ship class. Well-placed 2 battleship's AP shells hitting the cruiser's citadels are enough to reduce his health down to 1/3 HP left, that's the enjoyment of playing battleship.

 

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Heh, trying to be immortal Battleship against enemy planes? Tell that to Yamato & Musashi.

And yeah regarding your bad hit ratio from long range, that's called balanced as your class can't overpowered other ship class. Well-placed 2 battleship's AP shells hitting the cruiser's citadels are enough to reduce his health down to 1/3 HP left, that's the enjoyment of playing battleship.

 

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lol, as of now, yamato has become the whipping boy of tje whole fleet.

CAs love to torch it and laugh in glee as they have a BBQ party on it's deck, all CAs invited,

DD love it because its gigantic and lots of players like to park and snipe, makeing it the perfect target for torp runs

CV love it because about 2 minutes after yamato is lit up, your CA will have fried all of it's AA and it can have a free run 

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tell that to Yamato and Montana Captain. and they will laugh at you...!

 

No, they wouldn't

Being biggest ship also mean biggest target, easiest to hit, treatened as most dangerous opponent

they reason to stick to Cruiser with AA build is that they able to do AA barrage to enemy in the sky

 

and the reason why BB don't get this ability is simply for Balance purpose (no, we won't want CV to target Destroyer that supposed to kill someone like you, BB player)

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why do BBs need to stay near CA? for AA.? look who got more AA.? BBs or CA.? BBs right? why do CA kills more planes compared to BBs? example: cleveland. this CA can kill your planes in just few sec. . like it's straffing your planes...lol

Cleveland is a USN CL that's got tons of AA platforms.

 

With the rework to how AA works, AA bubbles of allied ships overlapping is the best shredder of enemy aircraft so staying with the fleet is the best course of action to remove unwarranted air attacks a BB may experience. CL/CAs also have the access to Defensive Fire AA module which increases their AA rating and causes panic to enemy bombers. BBs having a lot of firepower is also the best target for CVs to help their own team and the easiest to get the drop upon since they're big and slower than the other ships.

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i say that when the main guns are reloading you will be able to control the secondary guns

not just the alt one but control it like its the main gun

but US bbs needs a buff cuz they seem to be UP

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i say that when the main guns are reloading you will be able to control the secondary guns

not just the alt one but control it like its the main gun

but US bbs needs a buff cuz they seem to be UP

 

Eh. US BBs are nowhere near underpowered. It's only Montana being noticeably weaker than Yamato. Otherwise, USN BBs play pretty decently if people figure out how to play to their strengths.

 

Fire damage is nowhere near the problem that people make it out to be.

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why do BBs need to stay near CA? for AA.? look who got more AA.? BBs or CA.? BBs right? why do CA kills more planes compared to BBs? example: cleveland. this CA can kill your planes in just few sec. . like it's straffing your planes...lol

 

It is true but not in this game, though some BBs do put Cruiser's AA to shame... It's a balancing feature that also encourages TEAMPLAY by giving relevant roles to the each ship class... Cruisers need BBs for their massive firepower (for taking out other BBs and Cruisers), but BBs also need Cruisers for DD and AA protection... Also, only Cruisers (T6 and above) have DF consumable which take down a massive amount of aircraft if timed right... So, smart CV players know to stay out of the way of enemy BBs who have Cruiser escorts unless they want a bad time...

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Fire damage is nowhere near the problem that people make it out to be.

 

Indeed, I find myself dying to AP pen from BB and Torps much more than fire.

Simply because you can regenerate 100% of fire damage with Repair party, but only a fraction of it from AP pen (and worse, torp and citadel pen).

 

Though if you run regular Damage Control and regular Repair party, then yes fire might be a bit of a problem.

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All you can do is stay back and try shooting from long ranges which means your hit ratio sux's.

 

 

I usually engage under15km. and some time under 10km. if you take attention away from fellow cruiser they won't back away so easily leading to a successful push. You just need to anticipate torp when you lost most or all of your hp the push is gunna fell apart. Remember as a bb player you are a big factor that influence other player's move, if you stay at range other will also stay at range of you push other will follow you.

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