248 [151ST] S4pp3R Member 1,054 posts 5,090 battles Report post #1 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) I'm not saying this as a CA/DD player or a BB player, I'm saying this because my stats say it must be so... So see spoiler, Kong I'm absolutely killing it and trust me I'm no standout player... Myogi I'm still well above average... DD/CV been overnerfed methinks? Edit: Fixed images Edited February 23, 2016 by S4pp3R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 Xirvis Member 892 posts 7,853 battles Report post #2 Posted February 23, 2016 Or maybe you have been having a good sreak of being MM'ed with good team mates and/or "weak" opposing teams..... 2 Commander_Dusty and S4pp3R reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
678 [POI] Sekba Video Contributor 860 posts 10,965 battles Report post #3 Posted February 23, 2016 Any ship can be OP if there's a competent captain driving it 4 MeloMelonSoda, mikenzb, S4pp3R and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
650 [POI] MeloMelonSoda Beta Tester 4,888 posts 9,936 battles Report post #4 Posted February 23, 2016 Any ship can be OP if there's a competent captain driving it Especially your Tirpitz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
165 [-BRO-] Sparcie Member 467 posts 9,075 battles Report post #5 Posted February 23, 2016 I'd say you probably are a stand out player, with the kongo and myogi at the very least. The Kongo is a very good ship, but I wouldn't say she's OP. There are plenty of circumtstances where she can be sunk quickly. I sometimes do as well as those battles, but my average is no where near that high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
678 [POI] Sekba Video Contributor 860 posts 10,965 battles Report post #6 Posted February 23, 2016 Especially your Tirpitz Actually i got a lot of derp moments on my Tirpitz because i drive it like a DD, who needs gun when you have torpedus I got an amazing 32% survival rate on it though lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
248 [151ST] S4pp3R Member 1,054 posts 5,090 battles Report post #7 Posted February 23, 2016 Or maybe you have been having a good sreak of being MM'ed with good team mates and/or "weak" opposing teams..... I'd like to think so and if it was like 10 matches, legit. But the correlation between my survival and winning and also the 30-odd games inclines me to believe otherwise (I hope!) Any ship can be OP if there's a competent captain driving it Yeah I'm a firm believer in this, however I always hesitate to say I'm good with a ship. I'd say you probably are a stand out player, with the kongo and myogi at the very least. The Kongo is a very good ship, but I wouldn't say she's OP. There are plenty of circumtstances where she can be sunk quickly. I sometimes do as well as those battles, but my average is no where near that high. You flatter me mate, one hopes so but one is also careful as said ship could be OP. Overall I'm hoping my heavy play of CA/DDs has helped me identify BB weaknesses and strengths and exploit them. Thus I'm willing to say - CV/DD have been nerfed too far. As if I can be great with BBs, anyone can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
650 [POI] MeloMelonSoda Beta Tester 4,888 posts 9,936 battles Report post #8 Posted February 23, 2016 Actually i got a lot of derp moments on my Tirpitz because i drive it like a DD, who needs gun when you have torpedus I got an amazing 32% survival rate on it though lol Thats why Tirpitz is really fun ship to play Who need AP when you gun reloaded in 20s ? HE Yamato to deaddddd burnnnnn !!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [TROLL] UnasSinkerOfShips Member 406 posts 6,499 battles Report post #9 Posted February 23, 2016 The Kongo is a beast: For her Tier she has Excellent speed, range AND accuracy - played right, she can do very very well- what is your Win rate with US BBs? 1 S4pp3R reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
338 [AUSNZ] Moggytwo Beta Tester 682 posts 7,345 battles Report post #10 Posted February 23, 2016 As someone who plays mostly destroyers, I'd like to say that BB's are OP. They really aren't though. They have their strengths and weaknesses like any other class - play to their strengths and work to minimise their weaknesses and you'll do well. In general the classes are reasonably well balanced. Probably the most pressing balance issue between classes is high tier cruisers are too vulnerable to battleship AP at tiers 8-10, which makes for a horrible meta at those tiers where the cruisers are too afraid to push (understandably) and so everyone just hangs back lobbing shells at max range. Ugh. The Yamato is too good for it's tier as well which exacerbates the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
248 [151ST] S4pp3R Member 1,054 posts 5,090 battles Report post #11 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) The Kongo is a beast: For her Tier she has Excellent speed, range AND accuracy - played right, she can do very very well- what is your Win rate with US BBs? I only play IJN As someone who plays mostly destroyers, I'd like to say that BB's are OP. They really aren't though. They have their strengths and weaknesses like any other class - play to their strengths and work to minimise their weaknesses and you'll do well. In general the classes are reasonably well balanced. Probably the most pressing balance issue between classes is high tier cruisers are too vulnerable to battleship AP at tiers 8-10, which makes for a horrible meta at those tiers where the cruisers are too afraid to push (understandably) and so everyone just hangs back lobbing shells at max range. Ugh. The Yamato is too good for it's tier as well which exacerbates the problem. I agree, I also think CVs/DDs have been nerf batted too much. EDIT: Misread a quote, fixed response Edited February 23, 2016 by S4pp3R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,112 [MEGA] drakon233 Member 4,744 posts 18,690 battles Report post #12 Posted February 23, 2016 just wait until radars come out for high tier CAs, then it will be the end of american DDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
457 [LBAS] LtDan_IceCream Super Tester 1,372 posts Report post #13 Posted February 23, 2016 I don't think BB's are OP. As Eurobeat said BB's can be OP in the right captains hands, but they all have their weaknesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
18 Vorshlaghammer666 Member 280 posts 3,514 battles Report post #14 Posted February 23, 2016 true ..and it depends on who is driving the RC Ships if youre op then your ship is OP too so deal with it monsieur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49 [SH0T] Kleiss Member 451 posts 6,948 battles Report post #15 Posted February 23, 2016 Here i am complaining about multiple fires set by a single cruiser salvo... Bb op? Aside from yammy the only op one is probably fuso but eh not gonna complain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 KenryZ Member 1 post 1,737 battles Report post #16 Posted February 23, 2016 Not as OP as DD though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
245 [BRU] Mingfang47 Super Tester 2,725 posts Report post #17 Posted February 23, 2016 Doing 100k damage is deserving to get in the top 3 exp earner in the team. Not OP, you're just good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
61 [HKACC] MissMeMiss [HKACC] Member 252 posts 2,830 battles Report post #18 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) I always think good team result good stats. Like how you gonna do good performance if all you could do was evading shells & torps from any directions, because your team already gone. Edited February 23, 2016 by MissMeMiss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
248 [151ST] S4pp3R Member 1,054 posts 5,090 battles Report post #19 Posted February 23, 2016 Doing 100k damage is deserving to get in the top 3 exp earner in the team. Not OP, you're just good. Only in a couple of ships and only sometimes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 raxcave Beta Tester 29 posts 431 battles Report post #20 Posted February 25, 2016 BB is just gamble, if you have a good co ordinated team you will rock, if you don't you will just realize its too late to do anything, untill you will be alone in front of most of enemy team, every one putting what ever they got on you, so BB is as good as its team, while dd and cv forgive mistake and if played right can do more dmg then bb, end of day BB re not op, its DD thats op in hand of skilled player, coz A skilled DD playing hide and seek with enemy, and knowing when to torp and when to run, can win if 4 vs 1 then a BB in 4vs1. 1 S4pp3R reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,453 [VOR] R3negade Super Tester 1,398 posts 13,976 battles Report post #21 Posted February 25, 2016 You are a good captain with good MM on your side. The only OP BB is YAMATO 1 MeloMelonSoda reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
190 [KGHSF] THAI_THIEF [KGHSF] Member 3,316 posts 6,688 battles Report post #22 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Tirpitz is great trolling armor when I use NC with AP shell on port side but nothing penetrate And I luckily shoot at starboard I hit her citadel just like T-Cross. Edited February 25, 2016 by THAI_THIEF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 AsliWongJowo Member 46 posts 3,123 battles Report post #23 Posted February 25, 2016 just wait until radars come out for high tier CAs, then it will be the end of american DDs but why? why killing USN DD if the radar comes out like the leak said. indeed hunting DD gonna be more easy, pop the consumable and all 10km radius will be visible. 1. IJN DD will never get into that close anyway. they have 15-20km torp for the sake of the god 2. USSR DD, 10km? they have death wish or something? big body dimension just make them easy target in 10km. who in the hell wants to shoot new orleans at 10km anyway thats leave us with USN DD. i only play till Mahan, so i dont really know how is the play style of high tier USN DD. will they need to up close to 10km? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
678 [POI] Sekba Video Contributor 860 posts 10,965 battles Report post #24 Posted February 25, 2016 but why? why killing USN DD if the radar comes out like the leak said. indeed hunting DD gonna be more easy, pop the consumable and all 10km radius will be visible. 1. IJN DD will never get into that close anyway. they have 15-20km torp for the sake of the god 2. USSR DD, 10km? they have death wish or something? big body dimension just make them easy target in 10km. who in the hell wants to shoot new orleans at 10km anyway thats leave us with USN DD. i only play till Mahan, so i dont really know how is the play style of high tier USN DD. will they need to up close to 10km? US DDs needs to get closer than 10 km so their sub orbital catapult guns can hit something, also most high tier US DDs have roughly 10 km torps Basically the new radar makes US DDs <10km useless for ~30 sec Which is probably the reason why so many of its player cry a river when radar was announced.. But i do support the new radar, about time US CAs can have a proper role on high tier games and a proper counter against DD infested high tier match.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,112 [MEGA] drakon233 Member 4,744 posts 18,690 battles Report post #25 Posted February 26, 2016 yeah, only high iter USN DD that's gonna survive after radars come out is gearing, with it's 15km torps, and those 533 torps suck. \ (saying this as one of the USN DD players that's crying a river now( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
