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U.S.N Cruisers

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I have to wonder if any of the US cruisers after the Cleveland are any good?

I stuck with the line despite the horror that is the Poopsacola ... I have fully upgraded my Poo Orleans and it's still rubbish even with an admiral commanding it.

are the T9 & T10 worth sticking it out or should I just ditch the idea, stick to a Cleve and concentrate on the IJN and German lines?

I would be interested in some of the more experienced players opinions on the US CA line because to be honest, at this point they look like a waste of time and flags.

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baltimore and DM still has that nasty suborbital shell..

long range engagement is not really DM forte..

but in close-mid range. DM can melt almost everything

 

there was a case when i div with my friend.. me in zao and he in his DM... we were doing the 300 fire mission for ARP myoko

we got scatter map.

and he got himself pitted against 4 enemy cruiser.. in the middle of the map (CQC lol)

1 DM vs 4 (if my memory serve me right. it was zao, atago, mogami and baltimore)

guess what happen... rather than farm the fire... my friend farm citadels instead :D:D

he died ofcourse, but he managed to take 3 ship down with him (he also got double strike)

 

ah i also need to add that DM heal is superior that zao (50% more HP than what zao can heal)

when most experienced ppl say that Zao is better than DM. but some ppl still prefer DM over Zao (my friend is one of them. FYI, he got both zao and dm)

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I play the Cleveland and can only imagine how it is like with a Pensacola. Sub-orbital arcs are terrible for long range duals. For that reason, I enjoy the KMS ships, even the Yorck! I love my Roon! Can't wait for the Hindenberg....It's a long grind though.

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I play the Cleveland and can only imagine how it is like with a Pensacola. Sub-orbital arcs are terrible for long range duals. For that reason, I enjoy the KMS ships, even the Yorck! I love my Roon! Can't wait for the Hindenberg....It's a long grind though.

 

I fought 2 battles in my Pissmeoffcola. I promptly sold it and won't bother with the US CA line after my Cleveland. What they've done to most of the US ships in this game is (insert colorful descriptive word) wrong. German and IJN from this point on. I probably won't bother with the RN because they'll be just as bad.

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Everybody hates Penscola I actually like the ship and it is a solid performer when played to its strengths. I don't find its citadel any worse or better than the IJN or KM cruisers of the same tier. It's biggest problem is it has a bad reputation so everyone targets it first looking for an easy kill. 

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USN cruisers have good gun layouts and good AA, there good at hunting other cruisers and destroyers as well as providing supporting fire . Though they dont have torpedoes, there still deadly when used correctly. Also their high AA rating is an added bonus and you also take on the role as a AA screen for your teammates

Everybody hates Penscola I actually like the ship and it is a solid performer when played to its strengths. I don't find its citadel any worse or better than the IJN or KM cruisers of the same tier. It's biggest problem is it has a bad reputation so everyone targets it first looking for an easy kill. 

 

 Pensa is a solid performer eversince CBT, agreed with you there. Her armor maybe her Achilles heel but the IJN cruisers also share the same armor fault. Its a solid performer like you said , if played to her strengths 

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Good to know that there still some Pensacola lover out there :great:

 

So more Pensacola to shoot :trollface:

 

Anyways it deepens on personal preference even you like it doesn't mean other people will feel the same (for example i like Tashkent while other dont) :P

 

btw when you guys mentioned About AAA value where planes ? i rarely see CVs my North Carolina really want some planes can someone come feed her ? :D:D:D

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I'm another Pepsicola lover - its a quirky ship with pathetic armour, but after struggling on the tissue paper Nurnberg, the pepsi's armour can actually bounce shots and the ship has hard hitting guns that have a better field of fire and faster rotation, allowing better angling to occur.

 

My Myoko simply doesn't suit me atm, I've already unlocked the New Orleans and would wish CV's were more prevalent so my AA is actually useful for something

 

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I have to wonder if any of the US cruisers after the Cleveland are any good?

I stuck with the line despite the horror that is the Poopsacola ... I have fully upgraded my Poo Orleans and it's still rubbish even with an admiral commanding it.

are the T9 & T10 worth sticking it out or should I just ditch the idea, stick to a Cleve and concentrate on the IJN and German lines?

I would be interested in some of the more experienced players opinions on the US CA line because to be honest, at this point they look like a waste of time and flags.

 

Baltimore - insane AA

DM - insane RoF

Pensacola is a change in playstyles, it's why a lot of people struggle with it (also because by the Myoko, IJN CA players have already had 2 CAs to practice with).

Angle your armour and learn when to use HE/AP with your 203s. Learning how to angle your ship well is an artform. There are many players here who do it better than I but trust me, it can change a 3v1 situation into a win.

 

ah i also need to add that DM heal is superior that zao (50% more HP than what zao can heal)

when most experienced ppl say that Zao is better than DM. but some ppl still prefer DM over Zao (my friend is one of them. FYI, he got both zao and dm)

 

Ummmmm, is it like that due to everyone thinking Zao is better?

In all honesty I am much more afraid of the DM... (FYI only have Mogami/Atago, almost got Ibuki)

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Ummmmm, is it like that due to everyone thinking Zao is better?

In all honesty I am much more afraid of the DM... (FYI only have Mogami/Atago, almost got Ibuki)

in paper stat.. DM is better with such monsterous RoF

but for the actual ppl that already get taste from both of them (from PT or actually having them in live server) will say zao is better..

there is 1 reason why they say zao is better.. it is easier to hit with zao at MAX range.

since zao has blazingly fast shell velocity. (high speed shell)

also 12 shell spread is always tighter than 9 shell spread(more shell = more dice to roll against RNG)[the same reason why montana can still hit reliably even with higher dispersion number than yamato]

and maybe ppl that has tasting hindy will say hindy > DM coz of speed of shell too (probably)

 

it is indeed that zao is more excel in long range than DM (zao need 11s for 18km, DM need 14s for max range if i am not mistaken[will ask my friend later when he is online])

but zao cant take the beating to much.. zao has thickest citadel armour for CA? yes.. but in overall armour layout, zao is not the best (the overall thickness for 3 TX CA is almost same, but hindy and DM got better layout than zao). not to mention that zao has less HP than tier 9 cruiser from other nation

in otherside. DM got better armour layout, better heal, and also higher HP, she can take a more beating when doing CQC to mid range engagement and can still come out alive, and to actually regain a huge HP back later if she is given a time and chance to heal her self.

 

its like back to cleveland vs aoba again.. but this time IJN got more gun than USN

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The problem with the Pepsi is that it doesn't do anything great.

 

The Cleveland does several things great (relatively hard to Citadel, Good RoF, Great AA)

The Pepsi on the other hand doesn't excel at anything - and especially coming from the Cleveland it feels like a massive let down.

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The problem with the Pepsi is that it doesn't do anything great.

 

The Cleveland does several things great (relatively hard to Citadel, Good RoF, Great AA)

The Pepsi on the other hand doesn't excel at anything - and especially coming from the Cleveland it feels like a massive let down.

 

Pensacola seems to be decent with all the modules, It's just a glass cannon and not a brawler. 

This ship is proving to be strong for me when given the right circumstances, netting nearly 2k base experience in a losing game is hardly weak.

It's HE and AP is good so is the turret traverse other than the fact it's made of paper I don't understand all the complaints about this ship.

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Pensacola seems to be decent with all the modules, It's just a glass cannon and not a brawler. 

This ship is proving to be strong for me when given the right circumstances, netting nearly 2k base experience in a losing game is hardly weak.

It's HE and AP is good so is the turret traverse other than the fact it's made of paper I don't understand all the complaints about this ship.

 

The Turret Traverse isn't great IMO - and this is the thing - if it had good turrets and good maneuverability - then its paper armour would be less of an issue, But it doesn't. When compared to the IJN cruisers (which also have large Citadels) - They get Torpedoes.

 

I've completed the grind and sold it (Have yet to buy the New Orleans) and have had good games in it, but put it this way - I have more fun in my Cleveland or my Atago

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you might as well sell this crap cause aircrafts gonna be extinct real soon

 

Good thing i still stuck at Pensacola which got horrible AAA to begin with :D:D:D

 

Anyways welcome back my friend :honoring:

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The Turret Traverse isn't great IMO - and this is the thing - if it had good turrets and good maneuverability - then its paper armour would be less of an issue, But it doesn't. When compared to the IJN cruisers (which also have large Citadels) - They get Torpedoes.

 

I've completed the grind and sold it (Have yet to buy the New Orleans) and have had good games in it, but put it this way - I have more fun in my Cleveland or my Atago

 

Firstly, with ships that are horrible stock, save free XP and upgrade them. Pensa can be treated as one. (It's like NEVER take a stock CV to battle if you can avoid it)

 

Pensacola has great AA for tier, has great turret turn compared to Myoko.

Pensa has terrible armour, yep no denying it. STOP PLAYING IT LIKE A CL.

She has a much quicker turn rate with turrets (once upgraded) than Myoko and her AA is great.

 

Don't play solo, escort, support, focus fire. In a wolfpack, sit behind other CAs. In a fleet-in-being, defend BBs from DDs and help focus fire enemy ships in the open.

 

It seriously doesn't surprise me that people hate her. You've just been blessed with Omaha and Cleveland, then... ... Ummmmmm what the hell is this thing? Pensa is a different play style to some of the silly business you can get away with in the Omaha and Cleveland.

Yep I think the Myoko is the standout of her tier, no point in complaining, Omaha and Cleveland are much better than Furu and Aoba, IJN was bound to get one up eventually.

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Yeah, not sure where this poor turret thing is coming from. Pensacola's an average ship, weak on the armour side, but her turret traverse is excellent, and she has five guns superfiring fore.

 

New Orleans and Baltimore, though....*shudder*

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