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First impression :203 Canon x9 with agc,rate up to 90 per min ,and nice armor ,strong aa ,I can't find a better ca !

After playing a few battles:omg I don't know how to play it at all !Though fire quickly ,the trajectory just like aa guns (Remind me cleveland ..  ),you may say no one could  against dm in 10km,but in fact noone want to approach you excpet some lost atagos.when I litted up ,all of enemy ships will concentrate on me ,seems they hate dm more than shimakaze ..

Then I check my statistics of dm ,wr 42%,ad 64000,compare with average and zao ,well I have to say :dm really need buff !!!

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 the only advantage of zao i can see is its ap shell that can penetrate battleship armor even using only ap zao guns has no problem. its torpedo are highly situational. while des moines high rate of fire is really insane, she can melts cruiser quickly with AP and battleship with HE+fires. IMO its not that des moines is weak, its just zao is quite OP.

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 the only advantage of zao i can see is its ap shell that can penetrate battleship armor even using only ap zao guns has no problem. its torpedo are highly situational. while des moines high rate of fire is really insane, she can melts cruiser quickly with AP and battleship with HE+fires. IMO its not that des moines is weak, its just zao is quite OP.

 

You forget to mention that Zao have better shells characteristic (better velocity, better firing arc, dealing more HE damage per shell) it have more guns and comparable AAA (Des Moines still better but not by far)

 

Most of the time i saw that Zao will out gun Des Moines not even have to mention about torpedoes :D:D:D

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oh wait, did they change des moines gun arch? i haven't meet des moines for a long time. the last time i saw her, she was still performing great.

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oh wait, did they change des moines gun arch? i haven't meet des moines for a long time. the last time i saw her, she was still performing great.

 

Its as same as New Orleans and Baltimore from what heard cannot really confirm that because i don't have any of it, but none of them have the same shells characteristic as IJN cruiser which will be more favorables for most player :D:D:D

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I want Des moines to have a minor survivability buff.

just leave the guns alone

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I want Des moines to have a minor survivability buff.

just leave the guns alone

 

Don't want 3 sec. loading buff ? :D:D:D

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I want Des moines to have a minor survivability buff.

just leave the guns alone

 

In fact ,wg buff 2cm armor for it versions before ,but only I can see is that dm is easier hit by 460mm,rather 1480 :(

 

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Don't want 3 sec. loading buff ? :D:D:D

 

than cut the range to 15km,like Atlanta ....you know wg style 

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lel,, SRSLY???

 

 

buff DM = buff what section

if you buff shell arc then it's citadel spammer, which would make ZAO UP

 

 

 

 

 

I fall into the bait

 

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than cut the range to 15km,like Atlanta ....you know wg style 

 

Which might seem to be reasonable, because Des Moines shell velocity are not that fast and in close range it won't affect much which will boost the ship to be the best close quarters fighter of the class, anyways i don't have Des Moines and im noob cruiser player so don't take my opinion too serious :D:D:D

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One thing that everyone has to agree. After Cheatland at tier VI, all cruisers of the USN are pretty UP compared to their Japanese counterparts. Especially Pensacola. Gosh... Pensa is just terrible. 

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One thing that everyone has to agree. After Cheatland at tier VI, all cruisers of the USN are pretty UP compared to their Japanese counterparts. Especially Pensacola. Gosh... Pensa is just terrible. 

 

Pensacola isnt actually THAT bad.

Its the switch from 150-155mm to 203mm that makes you feel uncomfortable.

You then put the uncomfortable feelings linking them to the Pensacola.

 

And also we're spoilt by the Cheatland.

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Pensacola isnt actually THAT bad.

Its the switch from 150-155mm to 203mm that makes you feel uncomfortable.

You then put the uncomfortable feelings linking them to the Pensacola.

 

And also we're spoilt by the Cheatland.

 

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Pepsicola actually packed a punch

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Pensacola isnt actually THAT bad.

Its the switch from 150-155mm to 203mm that makes you feel uncomfortable.

You then put the uncomfortable feelings linking them to the Pensacola.

 

And also we're spoilt by the Cheatland.

 

No really... I got my New Orleans during CBT. And of course... I've been through the Pensacola. Didn't like it back then... Now i've just got the Pensa again... Still couldn't like it. The rate of fire is a huge disappointment. The armor is ridiculously weak... AA? Worse than Cheatland.

Agree that the guns are quite punchy... 

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Pensacola isnt actually THAT bad.

Its the switch from 150-155mm to 203mm that makes you feel uncomfortable.

You then put the uncomfortable feelings linking them to the Pensacola.

 

And also we're spoilt by the Cheatland.

 

My problems about Pensacola are like this:

 

*le me sailing around

 

*le me found da lone Battleship "hmm.. i should spam this guy some HE  it should be super effective!!!"

 

*le me aiming my gun 

 

BOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!$@^*^%$#@&!!!!!

 

TOOK 3 CITADEL CRITICAL DAMAGE OVER 999999999999 THOUSAND!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OGM

 

yea so i go back to port and crying :D:D:D

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My problems about Pensacola are like this:

 

*le me sailing around

 

*le me found da lone Battleship "hmm.. i should spam this guy some HE  it should be super effective!!!"

 

*le me aiming my gun 

 

BOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!$@^*^%$#@&!!!!!

 

TOOK 3 CITADEL CRITICAL DAMAGE OVER 999999999999 THOUSAND!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OGM

 

yea so i go back to port and crying :D:D:D

 

So you offered yourself to a battleship and was delivered presents?
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So you offered yourself to a battleship and was delivered presents?

 

Kind of that why i keep telling that im so noob at cruiser and i mean it :D:D:D

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No really... I got my New Orleans during CBT. And of course... I've been through the Pensacola. Didn't like it back then... Now i've just got the Pensa again... Still couldn't like it. The rate of fire is a huge disappointment. The armor is ridiculously weak... AA? Worse than Cheatland.

Agree that the guns are quite punchy... 

 

However ,pensa still have the best 203 in USN ca .Besides,bad concealment ,core areas are all over the ship .Even Wg put it in tier VI that's fine .. 

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I hated the cleveland and the annoyingly slow shell velocity. P-cola guns are good. But the ship cannot take a hit, even while highly angled. Overall i like the pepsi more.

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The problem with the Pensacola is her battleship grade concealment (15.7km!). Buff that, and she'll be far more survivable.

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The problem with the Pensacola is her battleship grade concealment (15.7km!). Buff that, and she'll be far more survivable.

 

another problem is that pensa is easy to kill ,so if you are found ,shell will fly to you like rainning,like dm .Wait a minute ,are we talking about dm ?

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it would be nice for tier 7 and above american cruiser to have damage repair ability. 

 

i like pensacola over myouko, she has fast turning guns which allows me to shoot while dodging and engage multiple target at once. her shell is more than enough to me to make a short work to IJN cruisers and destroyers.

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Funny that a made up ship should out-perform what was undeniably the most powerful CA ever built, isn't it?

 

Guess that's WG for you.

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