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Put cleveland in tier 7, or at least give ijn cruisers better turret traverse

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I beg you, this has gone really stupid lately. A cleveland can easily citadel a myoko(happened twice to me) and that thing has enough rudder shift speed to make my torpedoes uselessIt's 125 mm armor belt could avoid citadel hits from 203 mm guns. I once had a close range gun duel with a cleveland, and that thing slaughtered me. I put goddamn 26 AP shots up that thing's citadel but nothing went through. 

 

This ship is simply unfair... 

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You could citadel a Cleveland with a 203.

Just that the Cleveland's citadel area is a bit strange to what you expect. It's somewhere behind the second smokestack.

To engage a Cleveland, keep yourself away from it. Preferably >13km where it will be hard for the guy to hit you, and you great gun handling will help you out. IJN Cruiser had very good travel speed and the arc is easy to master.

 

And the reason the Cleveland can citadel you so easily (As you described) is probably because you show a broadside to him. In that case, I hereby represent all Cleveland Captain to urge you keep doing it. :D

Learn to angle your ship. 6 inch AP aren't all that effective >12km.

And the arc as well as it's travel speed is pretty poor, although I am pretty used to it.

 

Cleveland will be moved, but not any time soon according to my knowledge. And before that, deal with it.

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Ahh, thank you for the tip!

 

But you see, it's very difficult to land a hit in long ranges these days(you can dodge my hits. Your rudder shift time is very good). Not with the threat of getting shelled by an entire enemy fleet since clevelands don't like going solo. 

There's also the fact that myoko has slow turret traverse rate(had to goddamn buy upgrades and captain skills to turn 45.4 seconds to 34). And slow gun reloads. Which kinda makes the already bad arc of a torpedo tube a bad tradeoff.

 

Angling my ship in close range would be difficult since i greatly reduce my firepower while i have to deal with your difficult citadel area and high dps.

 

Oh well. I'm going to have to try better next time. Seriously though, who had the brilliant idea to put that kind of ship in tier VI...

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Better yet, delete it. I was thinking irrationally due to shock of being screwed over by a cleveland in ranges that i previously thought were myoko's domain. 

 

Sorry for the inconvenience that my thread has caused. I hope you have a good experience in this game.

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Better yet, delete it. I was thinking irrationally due to shock of being screwed over by a cleveland in ranges that i previously thought were myoko's domain.

 

Sorry for the inconvenience that my thread has caused. I hope you have a good experience in this game.

 

Technically as a USS Cleveland (CL-55) user I feel more like IJN Myoukou is much OP than us.

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Certainly this player doesn't know how difficult it actually is for Cleveland players after the nerf. Cheatland now has bad shell velocity while Myokou doesn't have that kind of issue. Hitting targets at range for Cheatland is now... Damn hard.

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never heard of cheatland?

 

exchanging tier with pepsi-sola will make things worse .

the gun already have enough nerf that requires alot of practice to hit a target up far.

 

if you want to whine, go whine on mogami (one more turret, 4 torpedo tupes, better guns)

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Sorry guys... I didn't know it was that hard on you fellows. Alright, i change my viewpoint then. So myoko needs a nerf?

 

 Nah if get nerfed there will be more ranting thread right now just remain as usual will do.

 

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angle your armor, rain it with HE if its angled and ap if its exposing its broadside. i have no problem sinking cleveland with aoba. 203 pack more punch than 155.

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When the games was in closed Beta the Cleveland was a nightmare to fight against, now...in my honest opinion it's perfectly situated and is no longer op at tier 6.

The German tier 5 and 6 cruisers outrange it now, the days of the Cheatland are long gone.

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When the games was in closed Beta the Cleveland was a nightmare to fight against, now...in my honest opinion it's perfectly situated and is no longer op at tier 6.

The German tier 5 and 6 cruisers outrange it now, the days of the Cheatland are long gone.

 

This - most have figured out that the Cleveland has a citadel and use AP to take it down very quickly.

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I think if you're using Myouko, you can just HE her (Cleveland) to death. She has large superstructure. At middle to long range that is.

You might disable its gun in the process.

I used to kill Cleveland with Omaha, even at Ocean map. Its bullet is easy to dodge.

 

US cruiser AP started with Phoenix up to Cleveland is extraordinary. It is more powerful than 203mm Japanese guns in the term of armor penetration capability. And it is also true on history, US 152mm cannon is using special AP round. Until we get German ships where is stronger at that area.

 

I think no one believe if i talk that Cleveland can pack a reasonable damage per minute with AP against BB. I tried it on Nagato, New Mex, etc. This is true if the shot done at long range (more than 14km), and short range (less than 8km).

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The cleveland is still decent at getting those juicy Citadel hit's. the shell velocity is still decent enough to still hassle ships at long ranges. 

 

if they bump it up a tier then they should undo some of it's "Nerf's" purely for the lolz :trollface:

 

 

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I just got this ship and I'm scared of its power... This thing melts enemy destroyers, downs whole squadrons of aircraft, burn down battleships and citadel enemy cruisers. Just, wow.

 

If you don't believe me, look at my stats on this thing and i only mod it for AA.

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I just got this ship and I'm scared of its power... This thing melts enemy destroyers, downs whole squadrons of aircraft, burn down battleships and citadel enemy cruisers. Just, wow.

 

If you don't believe me, look at my stats on this thing and i only mod it for AA.

 

Nice! Have you found your Niche in World of Warships?

"Light Cruiser Specialist Specializing in Mid Range BB Support and AA Defense"  Just to make it look "PROFESSIONAL" lol

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Nice! Have you found your Niche in World of Warships?

"Light Cruiser Specialist Specializing in Mid Range BB Support and AA Defense"  Just to make it look "PROFESSIONAL" lol

 

Lol, I wouldn't use it often since it might depopulate the CV population in the game. This thing has 50 AA rating since i dedicate my commander and mods to AA only(I also plan to increase the AA range further in the future). It's really funny when Aircraft carriers cancel their attack run when they see me.

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I just got this ship and I'm scared of its power... This thing melts enemy destroyers, downs whole squadrons of aircraft, burn down battleships and citadel enemy cruisers. Just, wow.

 

If you don't believe me, look at my stats on this thing and i only mod it for AA.

 

Welcome to the club! You should see how truly scary she is for any enemy less than 8KM...

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At less than 8km, she wreck even Nagato with AP.

No you don't need to be reserved using Cleveland, Aoba can kill planes too if equipped with defensive fire.

I've ever shot down 15 planes using Hatsuharu too.

CV need buff ? Lol

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