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Carrier Torpedo planes - Zero skill required to win every time!

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OH but for crying out loud will you PLEASE stop CV drivers from being able to hold their torp drops until they're right on top of you? Its nothing more than a guaranteed kill for them every single damned time!

 

"Want to win at WoWs?"

"Got no skill at all?"

"Like abusing insanely ridiculous glitches?"

"Just play a carrier in WoWs and you can't but fail to chea....um....WIN!"

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Hi Maximum we all share your pain when we started the game because lower tier ships AA are awful. It starts to get better at the New York with the B hull because you get a lot more bofors. And well since we are on the topic I would recommend you to get a carrier and have a taste for your self. It is actually not as easy as it look. All well best regard

 

Pst. Veterans please do not lash out at this guy. This community is excellent until some experienced players starts to bash newbies instead of helping them

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Hi Maximum we all share your pain when we started the game because lower tier ships AA are awful. It starts to get better at the New York with the B hull because you get a lot more bofors. And well since we are on the topic I would recommend you to get a carrier and have a taste for your self. It is actually not as easy as it look. All well best regard

 

Pst. Veterans please do not lash out at this guy. This community is excellent until some experienced players starts to bash newbies instead of helping them

 

It's not helping that his tone is not an attempt to ask question or advice but rather lashing out at the tragedy of low tier carrier encounter.

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I'll try not to sound too aggressive but honesty, try playing a CV(or any class of ship to which you are arguing for/against for that matter) before you make comments such at this. It would give some merit to your argument. 

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OH but for crying out loud will you PLEASE stop CV drivers from being able to hold their torp drops until they're right on top of you? Its nothing more than a guaranteed kill for them every single damned time!

 

"Want to win at WoWs?"

"Got no skill at all?"

"Like abusing insanely ridiculous glitches?"

"Just play a carrier in WoWs and you can't but fail to chea....um....WIN!"

hello, do you realize that when you play a match with CV, the number of CV will be same for your team and your opponent .

 

if we follow your logic, that CV's TB can kill any ship, then it will applied to the CV on your team too...

 

so if you are losing the match, then dont blame the CV please..... 

 

also i think you never play as Cv before huh? it is lot more challenging than you think.. but also fun

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I used to hate carriers due how many times my battle ended with a defeat every time I meet them. Then I decided to get myself a CV and see how it feels like one.So I endured with my Kawachi until I collected some 9000 exp, and unlocked Hosho. It was then I realize that the word "CV=Instant Win" doesn't exist.

 

From the surface,playing a CV sure looks like one. Everyone else saw a CV player sitting at the back while the rest charges into battle,sending waves after waves of bombers and occasionally fighters to deal with the enemy. This is probably where the whining started because they thought CV players can shake their legs and get credits/experience with ease.

 

The reality? My first few game with Hosho is a total mess,5 battles in a row and only 1 victory. Back then I was a stranger to CV controls and tactics.But over time I began to improve my performance and begin to rack up victories. CVs have the biggest learning curve among all ship types in this game.You got 3 types of planes to use,and depending on nation,up to 8 squadrons at your disposal. Fighters fights off enemy planes while bombers dishes hurt to enemy ships. Sounds simple?

 

NOPE.avi

 

Fighters sometime aren't good at their intended role. I learned from my first game playing a CV,is not to engage a fighter head-on unless you play American. Since Japanese fighters are completely inferior,I just use them to scout around and occasionally shot down enemy bombers.Now bombers on the other hand requires some effort to use.I rarely used manual drop. Instead I hit them from every angle and hey,every one of my CV games now have at least 4+ confirmed torpedo hits.But it still took some efforts to use one though,their success depends on some factors. Namely ship type,and presence of enemy AA and fighters.

 

A destroyer can easily evade your torpedoes and bombs,but a battleship will eat at least one of them.Trying to hit that fully upgraded New York that have a fighter escorting it?You be lucky if your squadron could reach them.You got to know your target and exactly how and when to hit them.On games where I realize I don't have air superiority, I hanged back and send my planes only at the closest threat.Once the enemy CV is located did I started making moves.

 

And there goes my rant. 

 

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OH but for crying out loud will you PLEASE stop CV drivers from being able to hold their torp drops until they're right on top of you? Its nothing more than a guaranteed kill for them every single damned time!

 

"Want to win at WoWs?"

"Got no skill at all?"

"Like abusing insanely ridiculous glitches?"

"Just play a carrier in WoWs and you can't but fail to chea....um....WIN!"

just play a CV and you will see how hard is it :child: cuz you were unfocused , so the CV can easily kill you :teethhappy:

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You're damed right its "this" topic again.

No I was not unfocused at all. It happens in every battle where there's a CV.

Not sure if you kids have noticed but the torp aircraft are literally over the top of you when the torps drop, and the torps have less than a 3 second run time. SO if a CV manages to last to the end of the battle and he's got a BB and a CA or like steaming down on him from where the fight was on the other side of the map, if he knows how to abuse this glitch he automatically wins.

I made it all the way to the end of a battle last night in a Wyoming. Scored 2 kills, a Cruiser and a BB and suffered less than 10% damage to my ship. I killed the BB as it was trying to protect the carrier when his torp planes appeared, flew over me, spun around on a wingtip, glitched to a position about 150 mtrs abeam my ship in perfect line abreast and it was all over. The torps spent barely 2 seconds in the water. I was turning and moving my speed up and down but that doesn't matter at all when the glitched/cheating CV players can paint an X on the side of your ship.

At that range the torps should have passed harmlessly beneath my Battleship, and would have not yet armed either.


 

PLEASE WoWs, fix the torp planes because they ARE BROKEN!


 

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You're damed right its "this" topic again.

No I was not unfocused at all. It happens in every battle where there's a CV.

Not sure if you kids have noticed but the torp aircraft are literally over the top of you when the torps drop, and the torps have less than a 3 second run time. SO if a CV manages to last to the end of the battle and he's got a BB and a CA or like steaming down on him from where the fight was on the other side of the map, if he knows how to abuse this glitch he automatically wins.

I made it all the way to the end of a battle last night in a Wyoming. Scored 2 kills, a Cruiser and a BB and suffered less than 10% damage to my ship. I killed the BB as it was trying to protect the carrier when his torp planes appeared, flew over me, spun around on a wingtip, glitched to a position about 150 mtrs abeam my ship in perfect line abreast and it was all over. The torps spent barely 2 seconds in the water. I was turning and moving my speed up and down but that doesn't matter at all when the glitched/cheating CV players can paint an X on the side of your ship.

At that range the torps should have passed harmlessly beneath my Battleship, and would have not yet armed either.

 

 

PLEASE WoWs, fix the torp planes because they ARE BROKEN!

 

 

nope, never seen an torpedo bomber  who drop torpedo on top of my head like you said. all torpedo has minimum arming distance, dropping them too close will make them all go dud and failing to explode on contact. 

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You're damed right its "this" topic again.

No I was not unfocused at all. It happens in every battle where there's a CV.

Not sure if you kids have noticed but the torp aircraft are literally over the top of you when the torps drop, and the torps have less than a 3 second run time. SO if a CV manages to last to the end of the battle and he's got a BB and a CA or like steaming down on him from where the fight was on the other side of the map, if he knows how to abuse this glitch he automatically wins.

I made it all the way to the end of a battle last night in a Wyoming. Scored 2 kills, a Cruiser and a BB and suffered less than 10% damage to my ship. I killed the BB as it was trying to protect the carrier when his torp planes appeared, flew over me, spun around on a wingtip, glitched to a position about 150 mtrs abeam my ship in perfect line abreast and it was all over. The torps spent barely 2 seconds in the water. I was turning and moving my speed up and down but that doesn't matter at all when the glitched/cheating CV players can paint an X on the side of your ship.

At that range the torps should have passed harmlessly beneath my Battleship, and would have not yet armed either.

 

 

PLEASE WoWs, fix the torp planes because they ARE BROKEN!

 

 

 

Replay or didnt happen.

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If what OP said was correct, then yeah, well, you are doing the right thing for a BB. But (a big but), this is tier 4 BBs we are talking about. They have horrible AA, and rudders are terrible as well. It true its hard to dodge torps dropped that close to you, but have you tried to pay more attention? Personally, I start turning away from torp bombers at 10km (or whatever range I first see them) range. This has usually allowed me to get away with max 1 or 2 torp hits out of 8 or 6 torps. Also, try going in formation as others said: collective AA is very effective.

As for CV being overpowered: they are powerful, but only against people who go Rambo. As a matter of fact, DDs are even better at exploiting Rambo players since they are able to sink a ship in 1 torp wave, but the thing is CVs are faster to react to these opportunities. Against dense AA, CV's can't do anything. E.g. last night, I had a game in Ryujo where I was trying to bomb a Colorado whose support was another Colorado. 4 torp planes go in, all died before they even reached their drop location.

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I'm sorry but I'm not going to be civil about this anymore.

 

I'm sick of these threads popping up and it's always the same __ thing over and over again. From CBT right till live and it's the same issue.

 

I'm not sorry if you did not notice my planes HALF WAY ACROSS THE MINI MAP

 

I'm not sorry if you keep on moving in a straight line DESPITE SEEING my planes coming to you ON THE MINI MAP

 

I'm not sorry if my planes managed to get close to you BECAUSE YOU DID NOT CHECK YOUR MINI MAP

 

One reason I get riled up for this is that players keep on lashing out against CV players and also FORCE CV players to be punished unfairly by WG thanks to their inattentiveness? I'm sorry. It just doesn't sit well with me. Also do your ship a favour, do not blame her rudder response for your lack of attention to the mini map and/or bad decisions. You may not notice it but unlike tanks, your ship is like an individual person with their nuances and feelings. So don't ever say that you can't avoid torps in your ship.

 

That reminds me...

 

 

Skip to 18 mins onwards. Jingles said something that strikes me. Apparently, bots are able to avoid torps.

 

Wait what? Bots avoid torps?

 

Yes I kid you not. Bots avoid torps. A bot which is a scripted programme can avoid torps unlike a living, breathing person. Wow, That's REALLY strange.

 

To Mako and anyone else who EVEN thinks of trying to rile against CV, get Hosho and Langley. They may be low tiers but fave a go at it. Is it as mystical and glitchy as you thought? Is it an insta-win?

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Call stat denier, CV fan boy or what ever, I don;t care. At least you don't see me riling against BBs like how they __ rile against CV. Because I at least TRY to use BBs albeit it's Tirppy. And using Tirppy also taught me how to kill BBs.

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Like some of the forummers said, you should try out CV yourself OP. I'm not a RTS fan, but tried CV just to see what the fuss is about. They are not as OP as you think...except for tier 9 and 10s.

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Dear Makise_Kuristina,

 

 

You're not very good at reading English are you.

The problem is not from how far you can see the torp planes approaching. You can see them approaching from a very long way away.

The problem my illiterate friend is when players don't drop their torps at the range circle they're supposed to for the torp to stabilise at the correct depth and arm itself, the problem is when players deliberately use a glitch to push their planes PAST the drop point and they drop their torps less than 200 meters from the side of your ship.

Please, please so I can be a better player, please instruct me on how I can manoeuvre a battleship to avoid a full salvo of torpedoes which have been dropped only 3 or less second's running time from my ship??????

So you can be as uncivil as you like my little friend, but read the post you're attacking before you prove yourself wrong again.

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I thought the replies already explained how to dodge torps very clearly, look out for TBs and I quote from one of the replies I've seen from this kind of threads: dodge planes not torps

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You're joking right? Really?

How does a ship dodge a plane?

Yes I see them coming from miles away on the mini map and by getting out of the periscope and looking around. But when a CV player has set his sights on you, just exactly how do you dodge? You can't hide from him you know.

But clearly you haven't bothered to read the actual issue either Ferro, Torps dropped from the ring where they're supposed to be I can dodge, even in a BB.

Why don't you go and actually read the post then reply with a helpful answer.

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