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  1. S0und_Theif

    British Tech Tree Suggestion

    Hi WG Dev team, Good day to you all, I would like to propose branch lines for the British tech tree. Please have a look and consider this suggestion. BB will have 3 or 4 branch (depend if WG will implement G3 battlecruisers) Branch 1 -> Main Branch (Already in the game) Branch 2 -> Battlecruiser Branch 3 -> Forward Facing BB Branch 4 -> Forward Facing CC DD will have 2 branch. The Main line and the "Intended Armament" branch CA/CL will have 3 branch. CL branch -> Already implemented CA branch -> Questionable to implement due to her main armament is of heavy cruiser, but her armor is light cruiser. You could citadel them with no problem. Though armament can be compensated to fire every 10 sec. AP rounds only? CLAA branch -> Britain's answer to Atlanta, but less 3 turrets or 6 guns. Today I'll start in the reverse order. I'll start from the destroyer aka "loliboats" Original DD line is untouched and will only explain the branch line or the "intended armament branch" T9 Jutland (133 mm / 5.25 in ) Note: She is Jutland "Battle Class" in all aspect, except, instead of the puny 113 mm (4.5 in), she will be armed with 133 mm (5.25 in), which was the original armament for this ship. But due to shortage of the weapon, the British opt for the 113 mm (4.5 in). T10 Daring (133 mm / 5.25 in) Note: She is Daring "Daring Class" in all aspect, except, instead of the puny 113 mm (4.5 in), she will be armed with 133 mm (5.25 in), which was the original armament for this ship. But due to shortage of the weapon, the British opt for the 113 mm (4.5 in). Additional note to WG: The 113 mm (4.5 in) is now the worse performing guns in terms of penetration. Even with Inertia fuse armed, most ships cannot be penetrated. Would request to update the penetration value of the 113 mm. The current value makes the guns useless and only tickles enemy ships. Thanks Next is Cruisers. Will update in the following days.
  2. S0und_Theif

    German Tech Tree Suggestion

    Hi WG Dev team, Good day to you all, I would like to propose branch lines for the German tech tree. Please have a look and consider this suggestion. BB will have 2 branch, the battleship and battlecruiser branch CA/CL will have 3 branch, light cruiser, heavy cruiser, and pocket battleship The pocket battleship branch will merge together with the battlecruiser branch at T9. This is due to limited information on Germany's Plan Z, and since Gneisenau's main armament was upgraded to DD will have 2 branch, the 128 mm (5 in) branch and the 150 mm (5.9 in) branch. At T8, Z 23 had the option to mount wither 128 mm (5 in) or 150 mm (5.9 in), but looses the 150 mm (5.9 in) at T9, the Z46. The branch line will allow the player to play the 150 mm (5.9 in) at T9 and T10. Like the Italian T9 and T10, Germany also labeled them as cruisers "Spahkreuzer / SP" but they are comparable to France's Mogador class Large Destroyer, hence they can still be counted as destroyers "Zerstorer / Z" Today I'll start in the reverse order. I'll start from the destroyer aka "loliboats" Original DD line is untouched and will only explain the branch line or the "150 mm (5.9 in) branch" T9 SP1 / Z40 Note: Basically a Z46 armed with 6 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/ 48 guns (3 x 2). Arrangement of 1 forward, 2 aft turret. Note: Due to her size, she is also mounted with 10 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) Note: Germany intended to hide her "cruiser" size by naming her Z40, only later to be named SP1. T10 SP? / Z ?? Note: Basically a Z52 armed with 6 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/ 48 guns (3 x 2). Arrangement of 2 forward, 1 aft turret. Note: Due to her size, she is also mounted with 10 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) Note: Like in the previous tier, Germany intended to hide her "cruiser" size by naming her Z??, only later to be named SP?. Note: Due to her design, she can counter the French Mogador, French Le Fantastique, Italian Etna, Italian Attilio Regolo " Capitani Romani", and the Russian Khabarovsk. Next is Cruisers. Will update in the following days.
  3. Okamitsu

    Varriant ships of their class

    Hi, I have been think about this suggestion to put some variant ship at their class to the branch tech tree so i think we need some of this variant ship name but not at premium purchases for the same armament but if they different okay u can put it on premium ship like mutsu on nagato class, but don't make it premium purchases if their have same armament like ARP series(i hope WG make the normal variant of this kongo class) why i want this variant to the branch tech tree?? the answer is simple we want make the battle is more colorful with almost of the player use the different name ship at the battle and can be easly to notice them at the battle and hey of course some name of the ship on their class maybe is the favorite warships for the player so this is very helpful because some name of the ship maybe looks like cool or so i hope WG notice this and wanna make variant warhsips at their class to the tech tree
  4. Hi WG Dev team, Good day to you all, I would like to propose the Italian tech tree. Although my research is incomplete, I would like to ask for everyone's help in filling in the missing ships. WG team also can have input if they have books or historic plans of the Italian Navy. Missing links: T3 BB T10 BB (Although the T10 BB has names, their configuration is very much theoretical. Usually, what France build, Italy answers and vice versa. Pretty much like what UK builds, Germany answers and vice versa.) T4 CL/CA T8 - T10 CA (Though a pretty much possible T8 and T9 CA will have 10 - 203 mm guns in {3 x 2} and {2 x 2} config, while T10 CA will either have 12 - 203 mm guns or 9 to 10 larger than 203 mm guns if any data exists) I kinda understand why WG have difficulty in implementing the Italian tech tree. I'm not sure but they may be facing the same challenges on getting info in Italian ships. Especially on T8 to T10. WG wants it to be as historically accurate as possible. Which I really appreciate and thank them for their hard work. Although my suggestion may not be read or noticed, I hope this suggestion may help them a bit on the research. Please have a look and consider this suggestion. The Italians have main armaments that has fast velocity and heavy shells. Fast velocity shells = overpens in close range??? Heavy shells = limited range??? Italian consumable gimmick = ? (I'm sure WG is working on this, but anyone can suggest a gimmick. Maybe from the space battle or haloween?) BB main line -> This branch is the main battleship line plays almost like US and Russian BB but has that Italian feel / gimmick BB branch line ->This branch line is some what of an odd ball. It looks, fells, and smells like a Battlecruiser but it doesn't. Small decrease in gun calibre/caliber, and small increase in speed while armor stays the same, while playing as an Italian, these ships feels like you have played them before in France, Germany, USA, UK, and Soviet Tech tree. DD line -> Italian DD line. Destroyer Note: Falco shares her class with Romania. Look into Romanian Destroyer Marasti Class and Regele Ferdinand Class Quick detail 1939 config -> 5 x 1 120 mm, 1941 config -> 2 x 2 120 mm Destroyer Note: Like WOT, the P43 was a heavy tank on paper but it is really a medium tank in real life practice and in the WOT game. Same thing will apply to T9 Etna and T10 Attilio Regolo "Capitani Romani Class". Destroyer Note: According to Wikipedia, T9 Etna and T10 Attilio Regolo "Capitani Romani Class" are consdered as crisers. But their design is more of a "Flotilla Leader", hence a "Large Destroyer" like France's Mogador of T10 and Russia's Khabarovsk of T10 are counter these ships. CL line -> Light cruiser line (T4 no Data) CA line -> Heavy cruiser line (T8-T10 no Data) Cruiser note: Since there is no known light cruiser design after Duca degli Abruzzi / Giuseppe Garibaldi, it is uncertain if there will be a T8 light cruiser line. If -> Theoretical T8 light cruiser exist with 12 guns Light cruiser line stops at T8 and the next re searchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree. Else If -> Theoretical T9 light cruiser design possible Light cruiser line continues till T10. Else -> Light cruiser line stops at T7 and the next re searchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree. Cruiser note: French and Italian tech tree will have this similarities. What France makes, Italy responds and vise versa. Battleship T3 ???? Armament: ?? x 305 mm (12 in) guns ?? x 120 mm (4.7 in) guns Note: I do not have any idea on this and there are no preliminary designs I can find. Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion): Design 1: 12 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (6 x 2) - Regina Elena class design. Main armament and secondary armament is armed with dual 305 mm guns (1 Bow, 1 Aft, 2 Port, 2 Starbord). She can fire only 4 turrets per broadside. She will feel like Turenne (French T3 BB) Design 2: 8 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (4 x 2) - Dante Alighieri design but guns are in dual mount in four turrets instead of triple mount. This will make Dante Alighieri feel skinnier due to less number of guns, but give you an idea how Dante Alighieri should be played. Design 3: 9 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (3 x 3) - Dante Alighieri design but guns are in triple mount but in three turrets instead of four. This will make Dante Alighieri feel short and plays like Normandie (French T6 BB). T4 Dante Alighieri Armament: 12 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (4 x 3) 20 x 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (12 x 1 and 4 x 2) 14 × 76.2 mm (3 in) guns (14 x 1) Note: If you are familiar with Soviet BB Gangut or Okt. Revolutsiya, she will play the same as those Soviet BB. T5 Leonardo da Vinci Armament (As built): 13 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (3 x 3 and 2 x 2) 18 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (18 x 1) 14 × 76.2 mm (3 in) guns (14 x 1) Armament (Modernized) (Optional) (Hull C): 10 x 320 mm (12.6 in) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2) 12 × 120 mm (4.7 in) (6 x 2) 8 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/47 AA guns (4 x 2) Note: She is the 3rd sister of Conte di Cavour and Giulio Cesare. Note: Leonardo da Vinci was sunk while her 2 other sister survived WW1 and got modenized. Option: Hull C, should Leonardo da Vinci survived WW1, she whould get the same upgrade as Conte di Cavour and Giulio Cesare or better. T6 Francesco Caracciolo Armament: 8 × 381 mm (15 in)/ 40 guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (12 x 1) 12 × 102 mm (4 in) guns (6 x 2) Note: She is direct counter to QE2 and Bayern Main Branch T7 Michaelangelo or Raffaello Armament: 8 × 381 mm (15 in) /40 or 50 guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3) 12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (12 x 1) 20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2) 32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2) Note: Preliminary design for Vittorio Veneto class. 8 guns in 4 turrets T8 Vittorio Veneto Armament: 9 × 381 mm (15 in) /50 guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3) 12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (12 x 1) 20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2) 32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2) Note: Italy's answer to Richelieu Class. Plays like N. Carolina and Monarch. Note: Battle of Vittorio Veneto (WW1) T9 Caporetto (UP.41) Armament: 9 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) 12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (6 x 2) 20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (10 x 2) Note: UP.41 design. Looks, fells, and smells almost like Sovetsky Soyuz class (Russian T9 BB) Note: Battle of Caporetto (WW1) T10 Repubblica Armament (Design 1 - 4 Turret): 12 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (4 x 3) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Armament (Design 2 - 4 Turret) Andrea Doria type: 10 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Armament (Design 3 - 3 Turret): 9 x ???mm guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Note: Direct counter to French T10 Republique / Libertie Note: It is unknown if Italy has made plans for a larger calibre/caliber guns no larger than 457 mm (18 in) in this . The largest guns goes to Japan's monstrosity Yamato Note: Since there is no concrete design after and beyond UP.41, I just speculate that Italy may have thought of a design beyond UP.41 but did not came to light as they fell first after WW2 and faced financial hardship. Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion): Design 1: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 406 mm in 4 triple mount or ???mm in 4 double mount Design 2: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 406 mm in 2 triple mount and in 2 double or ???mm in 4 double mount Design 3: She could have 3 turret slots, but armed with ??? mm in 3 triple mount Side Branch T7 Andrea Doria or Caio Duilio Armament (Modernized 1937): 10 x 320 mm (12.6 in) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2) 12 × 135 mm (5.3 in) guns (4 x 3) 10 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (10 x 1) 16 x 37 mm (1.5 in) Breda AA guns (8 x 2) 16 x 20 mm (0.79 in) Breda AA guns (8 x 2) Note: I am very sure one of them will be a premium like Dunkerque and Strasbourg or Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Note: She will be familiar as plays like Lyon and KGV. Small calibre/caliber for her tier but has many guns. T8 Filippo Lippi Armament: 6 × 381 mm (15 in) /40 or 50 guns (3 x 2) or 9 x 343 mm (13.5 in)/ 50 guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3) 10 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (10 x 1) 20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2) 32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2) Note: Another preliminary design for Vittorio Veneto. Note: She will be familiar as plays like Gneisenau. (Which will be moved to T8 because of the battle cruiser suggestion I will make in the future) Side Note: Yes, there is really an Italian painter called Filippo LippiIts and not to be confused with the band "Fra Lippo Lippi" which is Norwegian. Stitches and Burns. T9 Isonzo (UP.41) Armament: 9 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) 12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (6 x 2) 20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (10 x 2) Note: UP.41 design. Looks, fells, and smells almost like Sovetsky Soyuz class (Russian T9 BB) but armed with 381 mm Note: Battle of Isonzo (WW1) Note: She will be familiar as plays like Iowa or Sovetsky Soyuz with a twist. T10 Impero Armament (Design 1 - 4 Turret): 12 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (4 x 3) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Armament (Design 2 - 4 Turret) Andrea Doria type: 10 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Armament (Design 3 - 3 Turret): 9 x ???mm guns (3 x 3) 12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2) ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns Note: She will be familiar as plays like Montana, Conqueror or Iowa , Lion with a twist. Note: It is unknown if Italy has made plans for a larger calibre/caliber guns no larger than 431 mm (17 in) in this branch. The largest guns goes to Japan's monstrosity Yamato Note: Since there is no concrete design after and beyond UP.41, I just speculate that Italy may have thought of a design beyond UP.41 but did not came to light as they fell first after WW2 and faced financial hardship. Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion): Design 1: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 381 mm in 4 triple mount or ???mm in 4 double mount Design 2: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 381 mm in 2 triple mount and in 2 double or ???mm in 4 double mount Design 3: She could have 3 turret slots, but armed with ??? mm in 3 triple mount Next is Cruisers Full details in the following days.
  5. S0und_Theif

    French Tech Tree Suggestion

    Hi WG Dev team, Good day to you all, I would like to propose branch lines for the French tech tree. Please have a look and consider this suggestion. The Frenchy way Consumables: artillery WD40, and NOS BB main line -> The french way, all guns forward (The french makes things different. Think different) BB branch line -> The traditional way with maximum alpha and a bit of french touch (Quad turret) BB Note: Gascogne is not the premium Gascogne, but rather her armament configuration of 1 front 1 rear turret. I currently do not have a name for her. DD torpedo boat line -> Your usual torpedo loli-boats with 550 mm french baguette. Usually armed with 130 mm. Smaller than her other branch. Small size means better concealment compared to her "large" branch. DD "large" boat line -> A implied they are "large" compared to other loli-boats. Usually armed with 139 mm and really fast for her size. (If you have Aigle, she is good practice boat for this line) Due to large size, their concealment suffer, but with her 139 mm guns will make you think twice. (Larger than Lada's (Russian) 130mm but smaller than BMW's (German) 150mm) CL line -> French light cruiser line, artillery WD40 and NOS at T6. CA line -> Early access to CA like Japan, but no artillery WD40 and no NOS Cruiser note: Since there is no known light cruiser design after De Grasse / Chateurenault, it is uncertain if there will be a T8 light cruiser line. If -> Theoretical T8 light cruiser exist with 12 guns Light cruiser line stops at T8 and the next re searchable tier will be Charles Martel, T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree. Else If -> Theoretical T9 light cruiser design possible Light cruiser line continues till T10. Else -> Light cruiser line stops at T7 and the next re searchable tier will be Charles Martel, T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree. Cruiser note: French and Italian tech tree will have this similarities. What France makes, Italy responds and vise versa. Battleship T3 Turenne No change T4 Courbet No change T5 Bretagne No change T6 Normandie No change Forward Guns Branch (The French way) T7 Strasbourg Armament: 8 × 330 mm (13 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 × 130 mm(5.1 in)/45 guns (3 x 4 and 2 x 2) 8 × 37 mm (1.5 in)/50 guns (4 x 2) 8 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/76 Hotchkiss MG (8 x 1) Armour: Belt: Dunkerque: 225 mm Strasbourg: 283 mm Deck: Dunkerque: 115 – 125 mm Strasbourg: 127 – 137 mm Turrets: Dunkerque: 150 – 330 mm Strasbourg: 160 – 360 mm Conning tower: 270 mm Note: Armour shows the difference between Dunkerque and Strasbourg. While both ships will have 26s reload time, only Dunkerque will get the WD40 Armament reload booster, while Strasbourg dose not. Question: Should Dunkerque move up to T7 along with her sister Strasbourg or stay at T6? T8 Richelieu Armament: 8 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (2 x 4) 9× 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: No change. Side Note: Richelieu's Hull A is similar to Clemenceau, the 3rd sister of the Richelieu class, where she recieves 2 extra secondary turrets in her sides insted of usual AA armament of 37mm and 13.2mm were placed. T9 Alsace (N3) Armament: 12 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (3 x 4) 9 × 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) 24 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/45 guns (12 x 2) Note: No change. Note: The only odd one in the branch as she has rear turret. Side Note: N3 design was the approved design by France since the 380 mm in quad turret is already a proven gun. N2 design would be 9 x 406 mm and N1 would be 9 x 380 mm. T10 Liberte Armament: 8 x 431 mm (17 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 x 127 mm (5 in)/54 guns (8 x 2) 9 x 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: Republique has 1 forward and 1 rear turret, Liberte has both turret in front and none in the rear. Traditional Style Branch T7 Lyon Armament: 16 x 340 mm (13.4 in)/45 guns (4 x 4) 24 × 130 mm(5.1 in)/45 guns (4 x 4 and 4 x 2) 40 × 37 mm (1.5 in)/50 guns (20 x 2) 24 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/76 Hotchkiss MG (12 x 2) Note: No change. Side Note: there were 2 other designs for Lyon and they can be sold as premium. Other Design 1 (Turret Configuration): There was a competing design for Lyon with 2 turrets forward (A, B)and 2 turrets rear (X, Y) (The center turret (C) was moved forward). This means she can fire 8 guns insted of only 4. (source: Journal of United States Artillery, example Tourville) Other Design 2 (Armament Size): there were plans to mount Lyon with 8 380 mm guns, but later abandoned due to time constraints. Personal Opinion: Lyon seems to have a mistake in her design in an engineering stand point. Her funnel is in the front near the bridge tower. Does this mean either the engine is between Turret A and Turret C and have extra long gears to the propeller. Or the engine is in the correct position (which is near in the middle) and have created a long shaft funnel to go forward. Which may heat up the magazine room in Turret C and cause catastrophic explosion. I know im being nit picky on this but it just looks wrong. We can open a discussion this in another topic in the forum. T8 "Gascogne" type Armament: 8 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (2 x 4) 9× 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: She is Gascogne in all manner and configuration but she is not Gascogne. Gascogne is a premium and will find another name for her, but the configuration of the armament replicates Gascogne. T9 Flandre (N2) Armament: 9 × 406 mm (16 in)/?? guns (3 x 3) 9 × 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) 24 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/45 guns (12 x 2) Note: Flandre is the 4th sister of the Alsace class. France always likes to make fun of the 4th sister as they are different than the other 3. (i.e. Richelieu -> Gascogne, Lyon -> Tourville) Note: The N2 design arms her with 406 mm (16 in) instead of 380 mm (15 in) in 9 guns. Note: She will look, feel, smell like Iowa class due to her number of guns and configuration. Side Note: N3 design was the approved design by France since the 380 mm in quad turret is already a proven gun. N2 design would be 9 x 406 mm and N1 would be 9 x 380mm. T0 Republique Armament: 8 x 431 mm (17 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 x 127 mm (5 in)/54 guns (8 x 2) 9 x 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: No change. Next is Cruisers Full details in the following days.
  6. A bit of a disclaimer: the estimated HP, based on the ships’ standard/full displacement, for the ships aren’t 100% accurate (but I did some tests and the results are very close). WarGaming may use different sources for the ships’ displacements. It’s a formula(s) I stole from someone I know and I do not have the permission to give them to anyone else. My other ship line proposals: All new ships Tier V: Hawkins-class York-class Dido-class (Prem) VI: London-subclass (County-class) Ceylon-subclass (Crown Colony-class) (Prem) VII: Kent-subclass (County-class) Norfolk-subclass (County-class) VIII, IX and X: details will be down below The ships: HAWKINS-CLASS TIER 5 YORK-CLASS TIER 5 LONDON-SUBCLASS (COUNTY-CLASS) TIER 6 KENT-CLASS (COUNTY-CLASS) TIER 7 NORFOLK-CLASS (COUNTY-CLASS) TIER 7 CA SKETCH 1/1940 – 12,5k TON TIER 8 CA SKETCH 1/1940 – 15,5k TON TIER 9 CA DESIGN C 1/1941 TIER 9 CA DESIGN iii 3/1941 TIER 9 CA SKETCH 2/1940, 8-INCH TIER 10 CA SKETCH 2/1940, 9,2-INCH TIER 10 CA SKETCH 9/1939, 9,2-INCH TIER 11 Premiums DIDO-CLASS TIER 5 CEYLON-SUBCLASS (CROWN COLONY-CLASS) TIER 6
  7. S0und_Theif

    US Tech Tree Suggestions

    Hi All, I am new to WOWs, and I have a suggestion for US the tech tree line. If anyone can help me reach the dev team and have a look at my suggestion, that would be of great help. Here is my suggestion for a possible tech treee for the US warship line. Both standard and premium with details after the tech tree. I also have some tech tree lineup for UK, France, Germany, Italy, and Russia, running in my head, but that will be another topic for another time. Also have ideas for Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Argentina, Commonwealth Nations as well. but it will be like Poland style tech tree. Please let me know what you think about this tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation line up. Thanks in advance if you find this good and reached the dev team. I will try to fill up as much info as needed for this tech tree line up. Feel free to ask and i will try to get back on you as soon as i can.
  8. Hi Wargameing Dev team, While playing the UK destroyer line it got me thinking, the Commonwealth of Nations fought along side with the British during WW2 in both Atlantic and Pacific theater. And after looking around the internet, I found that it is possible to create a Commonwealth of Nations destroyer line like the Pan-Asia destroyer line. Commonwealth of Nations playstyle/gimmik is the "Creeping Smoke Generator" and the "Individual Torpedo Launch" (Haida and Perth), where as Pan-Asia is "Deep Water Torpedo". The playstyle almost mirrors British DD, smoke, harrass, torp, flee. Almost. But if wargameing has other ideas to make the playstyle unique, I welcome it. Here is what I have come up with when looking around the internet: CA/CL T1 Swan (AU) -> (Grimsby Class) Note: Its T1 DD Line T2 Champlain (CA) -> HMS Torbay (S Class, T Class) Close to HMS Medea T3 Vancouver (CA) -> HMS Vimy (V Class, W Class) Mirrors HMS Valkyrie T4 Waterhen (AU) -> HMS Waterhen (V Class, W Class) Mirrors HMS Wakeful T5 Saguenay (CA) -> (A Class, B Class) Mirrors HMS Acasta T6 Ottowa (CA) -> HMS Griffin (G Class, H Class) Mirrors HMS Galant T7 Napier (AU) -> (J Class, K Class, N Class) Mirrors HMS Jervis T8 Iroquoise (CA) or Ananta (AU) -> ("Tribal" Class) Mirrors HMCA Haida Note: Armed with 6 120 mm guns insted of 8 of the Cossack T9 Anzac (AU) -> ("Battle" Class) Mirrors HMS Jutland T10 Voyager (AU) -> (Daring Class) Mirrors HMS Daring Note: HMAS Vampire already used in T3 and Voyager sounds nice compared to Vampire and Vendetta (Personal Opinion). Like the Voyager satellite. Maybe they can do a unique Camo after space battles. 🙂 And lets not forget our Kiwi friends as well, but will be premium cruiser ships T6 Leander (NZ) -> HMS Leander (Leander Class) - CL Mirrors HMS Leander T6 Ontario or Quebec (CA) -> HMS Valiant (Queen Elizabeth Class) - BB Mirrors HMS Warspite Note: She was never built, but when Canada plans to build her, she would look line Queen Elizabeth in her 2nd refit in 1926 (with 1 smoke stack but retains the original bridge and secondary armaments of 6 in guns) T7 Gambia (NZ) -> HMS Gambia (Fiji Class) CL Mirrors HMS Fiji T7 Canberra (AU) -> HMAS Australia (Kent Class) - CA Mirrors HMS Kent Note: HMS Kent is not yet available in the game as of writing. Foot Note: CA = Canada AU = Australia NZ = New Zealand I hope that you like this suggestion and let me know if I have missed other DD that might mirror them in their respective tiers.
  9. Hi Wargameing Dev team, I would like to suggest a complete Pan-America destroyer line. However I came in 2 problems: 1. I cant find a suitable T1 for the Pan- America gunboat for the tech tree and need help on this. 2. Pan-America needs a unique gimmick or play style (Pan-Asia Deep-Water torpedo, British ambush and flee destroyer, German tanky destroyers, Russian suicide tactic, Commonwealth creep smoke). May it be armament, consumable, or their stats. However I was able to complete a destroyer line for Pan-America. I hope you like them. Here is what I have come up with when looking around the internet: Main Line DD T2 Alexandrino de Alenca / Maranhão Originally Porpoise "K-Class 1913" (UK) Armament: 3 × QF 4 in (102 mm) Mark IV guns (3 x 1) 1 × QF 2 pdr (40 mm) pom-pom Mk. II (1 x 1) 2 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedoes (2 x 1) T3 Almirante Villiar (PE) Originally Miklucho Maklai "Orfey Vlass" (RU) Note: Miklucho Maklai (RU) -> Vambola (EE) -> Almirante Villiar (PE) See "Estonian Destroyer Vambola and Lennuk" Suggestion Armament: 4 × 4.0 in (102 mm)/60 Pattern 1911 guns (4 x 1) 1 × QF 2 pdr (40 mm) pom-pom Mk. II (1 x 1) 2 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) Maxim machine guns (2 x 1) 9 × 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3) T4 Almirante Guise (PE) Originally Avtroil "Izyaslav Class" (RU) Note: Avtroil (RU) -> Lennuk (EE) -> Almirante Guise (PE) See "Estonian Destroyer Vambola and Lennuk" Suggestion Armament: 5 × 4.0 in (102 mm)/60 Pattern 1911 guns (5 x 1) 1 x 2.5 in (63.3 mm) Model 1916 (1 x 1) / 4 x 1.8 in (45 mm) 21-K (4 x 1) 2 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) Maxim machine guns (2 x 1) 9 × 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3) T5 Mendoza (AR) Based on Scott Class (UK) Armament: 5 × 4.7 in (120 mm) QF Mark IX guns (5 x 1) 1 × 3 in (76 mm) AA gun 2 × QF 2 pdr (40 mm) pom-pom Mk. II (2 x 1) ? Need more info 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) or Juan de Garay (AR) Originally Alcala Galiano "Churruca Class" (ES) Armament: 5 × 4.7 in (120 mm) L45 guns (5 x 1) ? UK / Italian Gun? 1 × 3 in (76 mm) AA guns (1 x 1) 4 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 2) ? Need more info 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) T6 Buenos Aires (AR) Based on G-Class or Gallant (UK) Armament: 4 × 4.7 in (120 mm) QF Mark IX guns (4 × 1) 8 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Vickers machine guns (2 x 4) 8 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 4) T7 Amazonas (BR) Based on H-Class (UK) but armed with US 5 in (127 mm) / 38 guns Armament: 4 x 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (4 x 1) 2 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (1 x 2) ? Need more info 4 × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (4 x 1) 8 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 4) T8 Mariz e Barros (BR) Based on Mahan Class (US) but only has 2 torpedo tube insted of 3 Note: I did not use Marcilio Diaz because she may be used as a T10 ship with the same name. Armament: 5 × single 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1) 4 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 2) 4 × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (4 x 1) 8 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 4) T9 Blanco Encalada (CL) Originally USS Wadleigh "Fletcher Class" (US) or Cuitláhuac (MX) Originally USS John Rogers "Fletcher Class" (US) Armament: 5 × 5 inch (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1) 10 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (5 x 2) 7–12 × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (7 x 1 or 6 x 2) 10 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 5) T10 Ministro Portales (CL) Originallt USS Charles S. Sperry "Allan M Summer Class" (US) Armament: 6 × 5 in (130 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [4 sec reload] 12 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2) 10 × × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1) 10 × 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) or Quetzalcoatl (MX) Originally USS Vogelgesang "Gearing Class" (US) Armament: 6 × 5 in (130 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [3 sec reload] 12 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2) 10 × × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1) 10 × 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) All Armaments are only stock, WG can edit or custom them. Foot Note: (BR) = Brazil (CO) = Colombia (US) = USA (EE) = Estonia (AR) = Argentina (VE) = Venezuela (UK) = UK (ES) = Spain / Espania (CL) = Chile (EC) = Ecuador (RU) = Russia (SE) = Sweden (PE) = Peru (NL) = Netherlands (MX) = Mexico I hope that you like this suggestion. 🙂
  10. So the 8 - 10 have Radar in the same slot as Catapult Fighter. Reload times are sub-standard for tier and spicy 1.70 sigma... Balancing factors? (They will probably buff them later on) Radar that can only detect BBs and CVs. Kinda useless if you ask me. You can read about the upcoming Russian BB line here: Tier 3 - 7: https://medium.com/@devblogwows/low-tier-ussr-bb-7d13efcf866e?fbclid=IwAR1M3T8-oU1BNai13kXGoP9IZQmvEYzbbS383RM7ZCIK_9deKVJnD1KbmTw Tier 8 - 10, and the Premium - Lenin (all of these have radar): https://medium.com/@devblogwows/high-tier-ussr-bb-9e599ee4f4b3?fbclid=IwAR1aWFt9cWNB60qYN7bl_jR4oFP_tQnw-aGANWI7KkZq-m1jjfPq12H9u9g Tier 8, 9 and 10 have more HP than German counterparts. BIAS DETECTED!!! AGAIN, where are the stat posts for the RN CVs??? They were announced EARLIER, right??? UPDATE 1: Surveillance Radar. Interface improvement. Flooding. Flooding has been changed (mostly nerfed). Sell your German and RN DDs now!!! https://medium.com/@devblogwows/radar-flooding-c8711f9e87a7?fbclid=IwAR0ycTR_PWVQpz8GNSKBvnO997oKCMPhKsr0ItByx2NORmoAbwgIjVB9NIo UPDATE 2: Russian BBs confirmed to have limited charges of Damage Control Party. Literally cyka bylat Rush B and die in the first 10 mins -OR- snipe from max range the whole match.
  11. Yes. Yes it is. Before any stone is thrown, there are valid historical designs that can make it to the line. https://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/cruiser/kreuzerm/tech.html https://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/cruiser/kreuzerq/index.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-class_cruiser And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Lützow_(1939) “Lützow was originally designed as a light cruiser version of the Admiral Hipper-class heavy cruisers, armed with twelve 15 cm (5.9 in) guns instead of the Admiral Hipper's eight 20.3 cm (8.0 in) guns.” And an image (from somewhere I fail to remember): A bit of a disclaimer: the estimated HP, based on the ships’ standard/full displacement, for the ships aren’t 100% accurate (but I did some tests and the results are very close). WarGaming may use different sources for the ships’ displacements. It’s a formula(s) I stole from someone I know and I do not have the permission to give them to anyone else. The line: VII: M-class Q-class VIII: Hull A Hipper with Königsberg's guns IX: Hipper with Nürnberg's guns X: (Slightly) Modified Hull B Roon with Nürnberg's guns Let’s get into the details: M-CLASS Q-SUBCLASS PROPOSED DESIGN OF LÜTZOW Opinions: + The line in general: I know WG could always make brand new models for the ships but it’d be much easier to put existing models on existing models. That’s basically the concept of the Lützow light cruiser proposal, right? RIGHT??? + Traits: Tanky light cruisers? I mean the M and Q even have “sloped decks”. While I cannot confirm what it truly means, but I assume that “sloped decks” are essentially something similar to “turtleback armor”. “Turtleback armor” is not a technical term by the way. If you view armor profile of a ship like Hindenburg and select to show only the ship’s vital part (the citadel), you will see sloped “sides” of the citadel box, and those edges are called “armored citadel deck slopes”, whose thickness is 60 mm. On German battleships, the armor is arranged differently, so you can’t truly view the actual thickness of the slopes. But they are there. “Sloped deck” on light cruisers. German through and through. The later ships are, of course, as tanky as German heavy cruisers get. That fact needs no more advertisement. 1/4 HE pen, like the heavy cruiser line. + Consumables: I can’t think of any except being identical to the heavy cruiser line already in the game. Would Radar be a good thing? I mean German Hydro is already too good, I don’t think having “German radar” on these ships would be much better than just popping German Hydro, which is long-ranged, lasts longer and can also detect torpedoes. Maybe better Repair Party? Myabe no catapult aircraft (I can see this happen)? + M and Q: Due to the similarities between M-class and Q-class (they are of the same class anyway), I can think of 2 ways: Q-class would the Hull B of M-class -OR- M-class gets in the game as the T7 for the new tech tree, Q-class is a semi-clone as a T6 premium ship. I do have a concern that other T7 cruisers in the game have much better HP pool than those ships (ALL of them to be correct), but M and Q do feature excellent speed and their “sloped decks”. + Lützow: I can think of splitting this CL Hipper into two. This is not a very good way to implement them, admittedly. One as T8 and one as T9. The T8 version will have the 150 mm turrets from Königsberg (7,5s reload) and the T9 (the historical, proposed Lützow) will actually have her designed guns from Nürnberg (6s reload). Since both of the ships would be light cruisers, there would be little problem if the ships have smaller HP pool. For example, all US heavy cruisers will have larger HP pool than all US light cruisers of the same tier – Des Moines’ 50,3k versus Worcester’s 45,4 k. In-game Hipper has 37,3k (Hull A) and 43,8k HP (Hull B), having about the same or slightly more HP than Hull B of some T9 cruisers (Donskoi, Seattle, Ibuki and even Zao – a T10). The very good reload will make up for protection (as if they even lack protection). What I don’t like is making the same ship (the same hull) two different ships in a ship line. But KGV and Monarch exist. Thank to WG for setting the precedence. Also I’d like point out that if the design indeed only changes the main guns of the Hipper-class, then the Fire Control System would still be the same, which means the firing range of these ships would be the best of all the light cruisers in the game: 17.7 km (FCS module B) versus Worcester’s 16.7 km). Even with FCS module A, at 16.1 km, it’s already better than Minotaur. Coupled with the impressive 6s reload, this ship can be really really powerful. + Tier 9 and 10: Alternatively, a light cruiser using Roon’s hull and Königsberg’s guns would do well at T9. Probably too well because of the huge HP pool for a light cruiser. It’s a German ship. It would be characteristically overweight. The last ship of the line would be a largely fabricated design (who’d have thought?) and I can think of 1 of 2 ways. If the T9 is indeed a ship based on Roon’s hull, then the T10 could be using Hindenburg’s hull with Nürnberg’s guns. Admittedly, a ship with Hindenburg’s hull and Nürnberg’s guns can be a very powerful ship in the game. Roon’s hull can have 4 turrets on it easily because: Nürnberg’s turrets are much smaller than Roon’s turrets (being a smaller caliber) and the forward superstructure can be pushed back just a bit to make space for the additional 150 mm turret. Here are my proposed stats of the T8 and T10, T7 is M-class and T9 is the historical proposed Lützow: TIER VIII TIER X
  12. This has nothing do to with anything but whatever, gotta post it. Information on most classes could be found on: https://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/index.html And Wikipedia. On Type 1937J: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1937J_destroyer The split is as follow: Historical note: All German 127 mm are actually 128 mm, and all German 150 mm are actually 149.1 mm. I doubt WG use 149 mm anyway. I use 128 and 150 for convenience. Characteristics on the 150 mm line: + Carry 150 mm guns so IFHE won’t be an absolute requirement. Also those guns have slow-ish reload (6,7s – 7,5s). BFT and AFT will only be required for AA builds. + Are very big (basically overweight) so expect massive HP pool and big detection range. T10 will get full BB AP pen damage like Khabarosvk and Harugumo. + Similar to the main line, they have sluggish rudder and large turning radius. About Aki-Kita-Haru (and Khaba) level of maneuverability. + Decently fast having at least 36 knots speed on all ships. + Roles: cap support (only cap when it’s safe to do so), HE spammer, potential DD hunter (don’t go against Kapparoast, Akizuki, Kitakaze and Harugumo though), torpedo sweeper (because German Hydro). + Consumables: I think they don’t need any consumable gimmick, aside from the German Hydro the current line already has. Maybe Heal at T9 and T10 in the same slot as Smoke, like Khabarovsk. A bit of a disclaimer: the estimated HP, based on the ships’ standard/full displacement, for the ships aren’t 100% accurate (but I did some tests and the results are very close). WarGaming may use different sources for the ships’ displacements. It’s a formula(s) I stole from someone I know and I do not have the permission to give them to anyone else. Some side thoughts: German torpedoes on DDs are spammable, mobile and stealthy yet short in range. Torpedo B modules are always straight upgrades from Torpedo A modules. A somewhat boring trait. The 150 mm line can have a different set of torpedo modules that have long range and more reload time. More damage is 100% optional. They need long-ranged torpedoes. That’s all I’m asking here. THE SHIPS TYPE 1936A - Z25 Tier 7- 150 mm guns TYPE 1936 - Z17 DIETHER VON ROEDER Tier 8 - 128 mm guns TYPE 1936A – Z23 Tier 8 - 150 mm guns Now no longer carries 128 mm guns, only – 5 150 mm guns (one twin in the bow, 3 single in the aft). Nothing else will be changed. TYPE 1938 A/AC Tier 9 - 150 mm guns SPÄHKREUZER 1938 Tier 10 - 150 mm guns PREMIUMS TYPE 1938B Tier 7 TYPE 1937J Tier 9 TYPE 1945 Tier 10 SPÄHKREUZER 1940 Tier 11
  13. Paladinum

    German BB split proposal

    Yes, it is. Commemorating the release of Prinz Eitel Friedrich, this is my take on the (inevitable) German BB split. This split is a "when" and not an "if". I just don't care when. I’ll go through the possible setups of the 2 lines first, then the stats of the ships down below. I’m not going through AA for the ships, if anything, I would just compare the AA of the ships to the ships that already in the game. Also protection stats for the ships can be changed/adjusted by WG so I would only mention some details. I put everything in spoilers to avoid unnecessary mouse-scrolling. Just click the ones you want to see. Sources: https://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/index.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page http://dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/SM_Studienentwurf/ And some other sources include someone I know who is a WW1/2 ship nut. A bit of a disclaimer: the estimated HP, based on the ships’ standard/full displacement, for the ships aren’t 100% accurate (but I did some tests and the results are very close). WarGaming may use different sources for the ships’ displacements. It’s a formula(s) I stole from someone I know and I do not have the permission to give them to anyone else. Setup 1: Old line – All-new line Setup 2: THE SHIPS VON DER TANN Tier 3 MOLTKE Tier 4 SEYDLITZ Tier 4 Premium DERFFLINGER Tier 5 MACKENSEN Tier 6 ERSATZ YORCK Tier 6 Premium or Tier 7 Tech tree/Premium O-CLASS Tier 7 Premium GROßERKREUZER 4541 Tier 7 HYPOTHETICAL DESIGN FOR TIER 8 H40A Tier 8/9 Premium H40B Tier 9 FREE XP VERSION OF FdG Tier 9 Premium H41 Tier 10
  14. Paladinum

    US Torpedoboat destroyer line

    US Torpedoboat destroyer line speculation! More lines are coming, mostly German 'cause I'm a wehraboo. NOTE: It’s actually a strange matter of how these classes aren’t in the current line. It’s like they intentionally did this to signal a line split or something. I mean… it’s strange, at least to me. All current US DDs from T6 in the current line have dual-purpose guns. All of them have just 2 sets of torpedo tubes, very uniformly so (except Mahan, but still). It just feels strange. I have high hopes for this line. My philosophy when speculating split lines is making sure one line is different than the other. For example, this line has some characteristic design differences that at least 80% guarantee they are different from the current US DD line, like focusing more on their torpedo power. THE LINE: VII: Bagley Gridley VIII: Benham IX: Porter X: Somers THE SHIPS BAGLEY-CLASS HP estimation: 10.700 (Hull A), 13.500 (Hull B) Primary armament: 4x1 127 mm dual-purpose (DP) guns in a AB-XY layout Torpedoes: 4x4 533 mm torpedo tubes (2 each side) Speed: 37 knots Consumables: standard T7 US DD consumable set. GRIDLEY-CLASS HP estimation: 10.600 (Hull A), 13.400 (Hull B) Primary armament: 4x1 127 mm dual-purpose (DP) guns in a AB-XY layout Torpedoes: 4x4 533 mm torpedo tubes (2 each side) Speed: 38.5 knots Consumables: standard T7 US DD consumable set. BENHAM-CLASS HP estimation: 10.900-12.000 (Hull A), 13.500 (Hull B) Primary armament: 4x1 127 mm dual-purpose (DP) guns in a AB-XY layout Torpedoes: 4x4 533 mm torpedo tubes (2 each side) Speed: 38 knots Consumables: standard T8 US DD consumable set. PORTER-CLASS HP estimation: 11.800 (Hull A), 15.400 (Hull B) Primary armament: 4x2 127 mm single-purpose (SP) guns in a AB-XY layout Torpedoes: 2x4 533 mm torpedo tubes (centerline) with spare for reload Speed: 37 knots Consumables: standard T9 US DD consumable set, with TRB in the same slot as Smoke Generator, same as some IJN DDs (Akatsuki, Kagero, Yugumo and Shiratsuyu). TRB is the same as Monaghan (or 20s instead of 30s). SOMERS-CLASS HP estimation: 11.700 (Hull A), 15.900 (Hull B) Primary armament: 4x2 127 mm SP guns Torpedoes: 3x4 533 mm torpedo tubes Speed: 38 knots Consumables: Damage Control, Smoke Generator, Engine Boost. Characteristics of the line: + Glass cannons for many roles and playstyles: sitting in smoke gun blazing or speed boosting while spamming walls of skills. + Have low HP pool on average due to being built pre-war or early in the war. + Torpedoes: mainly short-ranged as expected on US DDs. But there are a lot of them on one broadside, which is why I have the idea to come up with this line in the first place. Later tiers will have better torps (see the table below). + Porter and Somers’ SP guns have the same rate of fire as their DP counterparts, but no AA because they are SP. + Generally faster than the main line at 37 knots minimum. + Poor AA on Porter and Somers as their main guns are single, not dual-purpose. + Roles: ambusher, potential DD hunter (Porter and Somers) but low health so cautious DD hunters. Torpedoes they carry: Comparing historical torps with in-game torps In-game torps: Torpedo Ship(s) Speed (knots) Range (km) Damage Reload/torp (second) Mark 11 Farragut A 56 5.5 11,733 22 Mark 12 Farragut B Mahan A 64 6.4 11,733 22 Mark 15 Mod. 0 Mahan B Benson A 55 9.2 11,600 21.75 Mark 15 Mod. 3 Benson B Fletcher A Sims Kidd 55 9.2 16,633 24.4 Mark 16 Mod. 1 Fletcher B Gearing A 66 10.5 19,033 21.2 Mark 17 Gearing B 66 16.5 17,900 27.2 Bliss Leavitt Mk7 mod. 2B Sims 49 9.2 8,500 18 Mark 29 Black 43 (lol) 13.7 21,600 19.2 My speculation for the torpedoes that would be used by the ships as follow. Historically they used Mark 11, 12 and 15 torpedoes: Bagley and Gridley: Mark 12, then Mark 15 Mod. 0. Benham: Mark 15 Mod. 0 and Mod. 3. Porter: Mark 15 Mod. 3 and Mark 16 Mod. 1. Possibly also Mark 17, but that's just purely insane. Somers: Mark 15 Mod. 3 and Mark 16 Mod. 1. Premiums of the line: DD-360 PHELPS (PORTER-CLASS) 1944 HP estimation: 15.400 Primary armament: 2x2 and 1x1 dual-purpose guns. 1 twin turret in the front, the rest in the back. Torpedoes: 2x4 533 mm torpedo tubes (centerline), either Mark 15 Mod. 0 or Mark 15 Mod 3. Whether she had spare torps for reload is unknown to me. Speed: 37 knots Consumables: Damage Control, Smoke Generator, Engine Boost/Defensive AA Fire, Torpedo Reload Booster (maybe). Opinions: solid T8 premium, a good contender to Benson and Fletcher in most aspects. Same TRB as Porter. DD-395 DAVIS (SOMERS-CLASS) HP estimation: 15.900 Primary armament: 2x2 and 1x1 dual-purpose guns. 1 twin turret in the front, the rest in the back. Torpedoes: 2x4 533 mm torpedo tubes, using Mark 15 Mod. 3 and Mark 16 Mod. 1 torpedoes. Speed: 38 knots Consumables: Damage Control, Smoke Generator, Engine Boost/Defensive AA Fire. Opinions: I’d place this at T9. Having 1 torpedo mount less than tech tree Somers hampers this ship’s overall power, but there is also USS Kidd at T8. If WG want, they can gimmick this ship up. DD-396 JOUETT (SOMERS-CLASS) HP estimation: 15.900 Primary armament: 4x2 single-purpose guns. Torpedoes: 3x3 533 mm torpedo tubes, using Mark 15 Mod. 3 and Mark 16 Mod. 1 torpedoes. Speed: 38 knots Consumables: Damage Control, Smoke Generator, Engine Boost. Opinions: I’d place this at T9. Simply a downtiered Somers with less torpedo tubes. A notable mention: ROBERT H. SMITH-CLASS Minelayer Destroyer HP estimation: about 18.000 Primary armament: 3x2 127 mm DP guns in a AB-X layout, like Gearing. Torpedoes: a big, fat NONE. Speed: 34 knots Consumables: Damage Control, Smoke Generator/Hydro, Engine Boost/Defensive AA Fire. Opinions: tier indefinable. Basically Sumner-class (in-game Yueyang) without any torpedo, basically most of her firepower gone. Big, tier 9-material HP pool with a possible Hydro consumable that may become a torpedo-sweeper. As is, a T7 Premium. If some gimmicks are added (1/4 HE pen, improved US AP, Main Battery Reload Booster, Repair Party), she could be T8/9.
  15. Why aren't we allowed to see what consumables ships are allowed to carry until we purchase the ship? It would be good to know what other ships you might run into are capable of. Is there any mod out there that does this? I've used Aslain and Haka mod packs and haven't seen anything that shows ship's consumables and modification upgrades
  16. Minimum_Chips

    Improvement Ideas

    I would like the tech tree to list all the ships available and expand the nation list as well. For example, There are several Chinese ships in the game but they're are listed on the tech tree. Australia has a ship in the game, also not available via the tech tree.
  17. Dangerfish

    LF Excel of Tech Trees

    does anyone know of a fan designed document with all the tech trees within ? thinking of something I can print off as A3 or maybe A2, would consider designing one or improving one .... whatevers needed, cheers
  18. war4sure

    IJN Tech Tree Split?

    Some time earlier during the CBT, a modder stumbles upon a localization file that includes a line that contains description for Shinano, a tier X CV. WG also confirms Shinano will be in the game, and even showed her in one of their videos. Currently Japanese CV line in game are made up of ships build as a carrier,but Shinano came from a Yamato-class BB. So, I can tell much that sooner or later we get to choose whether to work up on purpose-built CV or converted ones. The split probably start at tier V like this: Shoho(V)>Chitose(VI)>Kaga(VII)>Akagi(VIII)>Ibuki CV(probably,IX)>Shinano(X) The same might also be done with destroyers, since I looked at WG planned tech tree for Japan and saw Akizuki there.The split for Japanese DD line are probably like Soviet heavy tank line, at tier VI you get to choose to grind for the IS if you're into the IS-7,or KV-3 if you prefer IS-4.Since Akizuki is a Anti-Air DD,the destroyers leading up to her are those that traded surface combat capability for increased AA stats. So it might looked like this: Surface Combatant Mutsuki(VI)>Shiratsuyu(VII)>Fubuki(VIII)>Kagerou(IX)>Shimakaze(X) AA Performance Mutsuki(VI)>Hatsuharu(VII)>Michisio(VIII)>Yuugumo(IX)>Akizuki(X) Take note that this was based on the planned tech tree and changes might happen throughout the development.
  19. It seems we have some more ships and Cruisers coming this Octoberfest! (Also deadly Russian Destroyers) Are you excited for this? . . . I know they'll have the Royal Navy Soon, Warspite isn't enough to the Royal Navy :/ (So, imo, what BBs,CLs,CAs,DDs and CVs you want to put in the Royal Navy?)
  20. CrossHares

    Submarines?

    So would Submarines and U-Boats be too complicated and unbalance the game too much if they were included as a new type of vessel?
  21. Earlier I was watching , and noticed this mock-up of the Japanese tech tree: From what I gather: Myogi will be renamed or replaced with Masamune at tier 4? They've decided on a tier 9 BB and a tier 5 CA The first Japanese aircraft carrier branch will begin with CVLs (light aircraft carriers) and develop into CVs such as Zuikaku and Taihou (I'd assume that the slower CV designs such as Kaga, Akagi and Shinano will appear in a second CV branch, or as premium warships) They're already rolling out the paper warships for the CV branch (Hakuryu? Never heard of it) Of course, this is always subject to further change in the future, and by no means represents the final tree design. One issue that I personally have with this design is that they're already rolling out plenty of paper blueprint warships, even though there are many famous ships that aren't in the tree yet. Of course, this isn't to say that they won't come later in secondary branches, but I really hope that the game doesn't become overwhelmed with paper designs for many branches like the German and Soviet trees in WoT are.
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