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  1. ADrunkDropbear

    The South American Naval Arms Race

    Here is an almost factual retelling of an incredible naval event that was overshadowed by the First World War, the South American Dreadnought Race. While some were simply offshoots of the designs prevalent in Europe at the time, others were designed from the ground up and were in some ways very unique, if not strange. Argentina and Chile, having quite a substantial border with one another, were desperate for each other’s land, their numerous border skirmishes ended in 1902 under British arbitration, because naturally neither country was about to pick a fight with an Empire that covered a quarter of the globe. At the time, the three major powers in South America; Brazil, Chile and Argentina did not possess the capability of constructing larger capital ships, as such they had to order them from the European powers, Britain and Italy were the main contractors. When Britain settled the border dispute, they added a clause that prevented either Argentina or Chile possessing a substantial naval force as both had started to turn away from Britain as their main ship builder, looking more toward the Germans and the Americans. For two years the major powers settled into a tenuous stability until in 1904 Brazil began a rapid expansion of its naval capability, and in 1908 received what was at the time, the largest and most powerful warship the world had ever seen, the Minas Gerais class battleship. With 12 x 12in guns and a top speed of 21 knots, she was at the time a wonder of naval engineering. Though considering just how fast ship designs were progressing she was not about to stay at the top for long. The Minas Gerais class brought about a whole new naval arms race. Seen here in 1910 Argentina perceived the new Brazilian Navy as a severe threat and immediately sent out a tender for new battleships. Fore River, an American company won and set to work on what would become an extraordinary pair of vessels. Though considering what went into making them, a better name for the company might have been Frankenstein. The Argentinean Navy had decided to take designs and influences from several different major naval powers and incorporate them into a single ship. As such, the Rivadavia class had an American super imposed turret arrangement and cage mast, British influenced wing turrets, her secondary battery and propulsion shafts were based on German designs and an engine and boiler room basically copied from the Italian battleship, Dante Alighieri. Despite this odd mishmash of designs, the Rivadavia class had good armour protection, strong armament of 12 x 12in guns, a pair of 21in torpedo tubes and a higher top speed than her rivals at 22.5 knots. The Rivadavia as seen before her modernisation in the 1930’s undergoing speed trials Brazil however had not stopped their expansion and in 1910 set about ordering another battleship, similar in design to Minas Gerais, the Rio de Janeiro, she was completed just as the First World War broke out which might seem like a good thing but being built by Britain and purchased by Brazil meant there was inevitably going to be a slight disagreement on ownership. Her fate had been sealed nearly 40 years before hand when the Rubber Boom was in full swing. At the time Brazil was the largest exporter of natural rubber in the world. It was in 1876 that the British Authorities at Kew Gardens, enquired with Henry Whickam, a British entrepreneur living in Brazil at the time about acquiring a large sample of rubber plant trees. Whickam, went well above what was asked of him and managed to smuggle over 70,000 seeds out of the country, though British authorities were not very impressed when he demanded payment for every seed. History does not recall what was said in the exchange. Nevertheless, the British set about planting the trees all through the tropical regions of South-East Asia, with a view of one day controlling the entire rubber market. Just as Rio de Janeiro was being built, that view came into being, the British rubber poured out of South East Asia at such a rate that Brazil didn’t have a hope in competing, very quickly their economy faulted then began to collapse into a recession. Without a functioning economy to support itself, the Brazilian government found itself under pressure to cancel the Dreadnought program that had cost so much, nearly 25% of the national budget. The loss of funds also resulted in a mutiny within the ranks of the Brazilian navy. It was decided that the newly built Rio de Janeiro would be sold to offset some of the government’s financial woes, the Ottoman Empire was more than happy to pay, with the new ship renamed as Sultan Osman I, though it didn’t stay that way for long. Rio de Janeiro was still under construction in Britain in 1914 when the purchase was made, but as war drew closer her builders, Armstrong, were notified by the Admiralty that they should hold off on the delivery. On July 31st 1914, Armstrong was again contacted by the Admiralty, this time informing them that the British government could not permit the sale or delivery of the ship to a foreign power. The Rio de Janeiro seen in 1914 after her takeover by the British Admiralty. It's interesting to note that the only reason that the British purchased her was because of their own actions 40 years prior. The next day all Turkish personnel were removed from the ship and she was once again renamed, this time as HMS Agincourt. At the time she was one of the most powerful battleships in the world with 14 x 12in guns. The loss of the Rio de Janeiro was in part a foreshadowing of what would befall, Chile. When news of the new Rivadavia class battleships reached Chile, they immediately ordered their own battleship design based on the Iron Duke class. Unlike Iron Duke, this new design would swap the standard 13.5in guns for 10 x 14in guns. The battleships were being constructed in Britain and in 1914, the first of the class, Almirante Latorre was purchased by the Royal Navy at the outbreak of the First World War before it could set sail for Chile, the new ship was given the name HMS Canada. Work on the second ship, Almirante Cochrane was halted until 1917 when the Royal Navy decided to convert her into what became the aircraft carrier HMS Eagle. The Chilean battleship Almirante Latorre, was for the duration of the First World War known as HMS Canada, an up-gunned Iron Duke class. After the war, HMS Canada was returned to her rightful owners but Chile argued that it had no use of an aircraft carrier as its total naval ‘fixed wing’ air power at the time consisted of a flock of particularly rowdy seagulls and a One Eyed Pelican called Samuel. They immediately requested that the HMS Eagle be given back her original design. Britain refused as they hardly saw the need of reverting the ship back to what was already becoming an outdated design and instead offered a heavy cruiser and several screening ships instead, this was ultimately rejected. This left Argentina the only power with more than one modern battleship, however with the end of the First World War and the Naval Treaties that followed, her influence as a naval power waned and eventually collapsed as the United States’ influence in the region spread. Rivadavia and her sister, Moreno, were modernised after the First World War, her anti aircraft capabilities being the main focus. Though considering her top speed barely changed she was in no way capable of being part of a more modern task group. Both were stricken from the Navy list in 1951. The Argentinean battleship Rivadavia seen just three years before she was stricken from the Navy list. The Minas Gerais and her sister Sao Paulo were both refit in the 1920’s, however only Minas Gerais underwent modernisation between 1936 and 1937. After the Second World War it was decided that the two ships would be stricken from the navy list and sent for scrapping, Minas Gerais was to be broken up in Italy and Sao Paulo in Britain. Minas Gerais was scrapped in 1954, however 3 years prior Sao Paulo broke free from her tow in the middle of the North Atlantic and was never seen again. Almirante Latorre, the last remaining ship of the South American Naval Race outlasted all her rivals and in 1958 was towed all the way across the Pacific where she was dismantled in Japan. The author would like to express the point that any references to either rowdy seagulls or One Eyed Pelicans called Samuel are fictional and any relation to actual Argentinean rowdy seagulls or One Eyed Pelicans called Samuel are entirely coincidental and are not meant to represent those of particular avian heritage.
  2. Subete_Yoi

    British Battleship Dreadnought

    British Battleship Dreadnought bask at her glory! Specifications: Type: Dreadnought Battleship Displacement: 18410 tonsLength: 160.6 meters Breadth: 25 meters No of shafts: 4 Engine: 18 Babcock & Wilcox Boilers Power: 23000 h.p. Top speed: 21 knots (39 km/h) Armament: 5 - Twin BL 12 inch Mark X Guns Whooping 27 - Single 12 Pounder 18 CWT Mark I Guns 5 - 18-inch Torpedo Tubes Armour: Belt: 102 - 279 mm Bulkheads: 203 mm Barrettes: 102 - 279 mm Turrets: 76 - 305 mm Deck:19 - 76 mm Conning tower: 279 mm Torpedo room: 152 mm Info: Fate:Scrapped 2 January 1923 After reading back, I can already sense that there are tons of mistakes that I might not noticed. So dear historians and warships experts, do tell if there's any inaccuracy or something to add or point out. Don't want to spread the wrong info in the historical section now, would we?
  3. I would have bothered to raid for Nevada but I have this feeling Old Falling Apart Grand Lady of the Fleet needs the love. And its a long time since I badposted I PRESENT TO YOU USS PENNSYLVANIA (BB-38) ... not THIS Pennsylvania (not bad, Azur Lane) ... well I can understand Jeanex/November's Pacific (SOMEONE PLEASE GRAB V1-3 OF PACIFIC PLS) THIS Pennsylvania. Well what do you expect for Arizona's big sis? Apart from the engineering hax that was Nevada, it could be said that the Pennsylvania class were a logical step on how2battleship by the Americans and I must say, for a Standard, she's... well... "plain". I mean she's a standard dread, appearance wise. Has two more guns than Nevada, also uses the All or Nothing as the Nevada, has the same oil fired engine type as Nevada, uses the same barrel and feed system, if not improved, as Nevada.... she's basically filling what the dread lacked, maybe more. Pennsylvania has about 14 inches of belt, 3 inches of deck which kinda increased to nearly 6 inches after SURPRISE BOMBSECKS that was Pearl Harbor, about 15 inches thickness max on the turrets and 16 inches of conning tower. Dakka wise, she had twelve 14 inch guns, an array of 5 inch secondary guns (note that these secondaries are for hot ship to ship action), some lumpy 3 inch guns and submerged torpedo tubes, and had some bits replaced and added like Hotchkiss saluting guns, the torpedo tubes removed because putting submerged torpedo tubes on dreads is a stupid idea later on, and had MOAR AA guns added like Bofors, Oerlikons and a few DP 5 inch guns. The lumpy dread could run at 22 kts flat which was standard for a dread of her type back then but... due to her new oil combustion bit, it was getting rather tedious to run after her with a tanker just to bunker up than coal but hey, TECHNOLOGY HURR. Speaking of tech she also was a recipient of radar hax early on... although in her case, its not the same as the '43 onwards radar where ships go "I know where you are, how big you are, and I can accurately math my guns to where you are" but rather its basically "I know where you are" and honestly, for a venerable dread such as her, its more than enough. About Pennsy's facelift.... The hyperboloid masts were as she was built with and while there aint anything wrong about the lumpy superstructure, because WNT ratification, they needed to update their ships that were still able and worthy which Pennsy was slated for and replaced her hyperboloid masts with the typical tripod masts which she and her little sister were given. As she was in 30's. Note the solid tripod masts. She got her second facelift which removed the aft mast and gave her a more "proper"-ish dread look: ... that makes her look like a Brit battleship from afar. A Royal Sovereign/Revenge amirite? After the usual shakedown, she was slated to join as an element of the American fleet operating with the Brits but because of her being newer, she had to stay behind and start training her bits, ranging from sailing and gunnery to outright positional and you could say her tenure was rather... not that uneventful since she was operating as a lumpy battleship, had the occasional overhauls and upguns, sailing as a tub for the Pacific Fleet where she was to sit her sorry hull at Pearl Harbor and finally was slated to be one of the battleships with the new iteration of radar hax which was... for their time. You already know what happened when the IJN decided to yell out "aloha" to the Americans at the naval base... Two destroyers near her got decked bad while she got some hurt herself. If memory serves, Pennsylvania was one of the responding AA fire when the gun teams were scrambling on the deck to man empty AA guns to start filling the sky with lead and she got hurt when one of her mounts, an AA mount or was it a secondary, blew up from a bomb strike and iono if it was a thing or not, she was also expending rounds to cover Nevada which was trying to run away (the lumpy battleship should have steamed past the stricken battleship row at this point) from the aerial assault in drydock and after some operational checks as well as repairs, went back stateside to a heavy duty shipyard to begin repairs and overhauls. After a while, she looked like this: .. on the stages of her refit which gave her some more room to cram in sensors and stuff as well as a place to chuck in more AA guns. She spent most of her time letting her guns sing at shore bombardment and it wasn't even funny to see the after-effects of her handiwork as she'd pummel the living shit out of the area. She nearly got torpedoed and while she didnt exactly get torped in Pearl, thank god for drydock, what do you think an old yet refitted dread would go on when she was torpedoed? Also was one of the bombardiers standing by for offshore artillery by forward observers and she wasn't with her clumsiness: she collided with a destroyer(?) and a transport once during the hectic maneuvers and she earned one of her nicknames, "Old Falling Apart", when she shelled Guam so intensely and so hard that she was starting to chip off metal and stuff falling about that the men thought she was shooting herself to death from all the ordnance she lobbed, in fact, she would likely be the one to nearly expend her ammo during the pre-landing bombardments than any other so much that any standing hard target, some skub hiding in a cliff face or hardened bunker, would think twice even staying. She started to show her age after some incursions of running back for repairs apart from bunkering and resupply and she was one of the battleships at Leyte who shore teams counted on (I forgot her callsign during Leyte) since a volley from Pennsylvania hitting ground targets can make them unexist and it was during the Leyte operation she got attached to Oldendorf's fleet which had the venerable Ghosts of Pearl Harbor. Sadly... she didn't exactly get to fire since she was behind the line as well as it was rather hard to acquire firing solution in the dark with older equipment and unlike West Virginia which had better gear that zeroed in on Yamashiro earlier which the others used as base point for their own firing solutions, Pennsy was forced to remain silent because firing obstruction AND it was hard trying to zero in the night with her older gear. She got a taste of aerial assault of torpedo bombers after her facelift and had some bit on guns... inherited from Oklahoma. She broke one of her screws and ran back home limping under one screw until she was decent to fight again... and after the war ended, she was slated for the Atomic Bomb tests to see if a battleship can into surviving nukes. Technically speaking, the battleship survived but the projected crew are boiled alive so there's that... and then Baker test... which kinda ended her as she listed and capsized... but not without railing in eight battle stars to her name... not a bad set for a dread her age. In-game wise, I expect her to be tier 6 as her sister Arizona albeit her 1943-45 is the final hull with decent rudder shift and turn radius. Her guns ain't stellar but they're enough to whack the crap out of someone and should be feeding the same improved 14 inch shells as New Mexico and Tennessee . The AA suite aboard should be sound enough to be at least Texas level although its likely Pennsy will be a reward ship, same as Shinonome. Derp.exe is over
  4. Subete_Yoi

    Japanese Battleship Kawachi

    Japanese Battleship 河内 Kawachi Specifications: Class/Type: Kawachi Class Battleship Displacement: 21,157 tons Length: 160.3 meters Breadth: 25.7 meters Shafts: 2 along with 2 Steam Turbine Sets Engine: VTE, 16 Miyabara boilers Power: 19,000 h.p. Top speed: 21 knots (39km/h) Armaments: 2 - 12-inch/50 Naval Guns 4 - 12-inch/45 Naval Guns 10 - 6-inch Naval Guns 8 - 4.7 inch (119 mm) Naval Guns 12 - 3 inch (76 mm) Naval Guns 5 - 18-inch Torpedo Tubes Armour: Belt: 127mm - 305mm Barbette: 180-240mm Turrets: 279mm Casemate: 152mm Deck: 30mm Conning Tower: 254mm Info: Fate: Sunk 12th July 1918 After reading back, I can already sense that there are tons of mistakes that I might not noticed. So dear historians and warships experts, do tell if there's any inaccuracy or something to add or point out. Don't want to spread the wrong info in the historical section now, would we?