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  1. S0und_Theif

    Ranked w CV, did anyone have fun?

    Half-half. Use only Montana rental from rank 15 to rank 9 then got pused back to rank 10. A good learning experience for my 2nd Ranked game. My only rage is on AFK, AFK for 5 mins then start playing, Plays game then AFK after a few mins (connection issue I can let go, but leaving the game midway is unforgivable), and at least 1 game where there was a border hugging ship (not sure if it is a bot or just intentional that the player has lost interest and left the table while the game is ongoing), luckily we won that game. At least fight to the death man. Death before dishonor even if others rage on you at least you died an honorable death. Language barrier is a common problem, but the fact that the player understands english, but keeps insisting on speaking his native language, then looses, and blames other players for his loss is just...... (I just dont have words to decribe my utter disapointment and digust on this. Im speechless.) Other players sees them as square blocks and can't see or understand them. (unless you set up the keyboard settings to their native language.), hence they both rage in chat. Even after death, they rage on. Most players use the map and the basic 12 in-game pre-set chat at least to an extent that they understand the intension. It's difficult in ranked but understandable with limitations. I sometimes feel that there are excellent players using rentals and just either testing or trolling the other team. On the other hand, there are also rental players who are really new to ranked. (At least let them try it in co-op or training to get to know the ship.) Lots of things can be wrong with rental ships (I understand that WG wants to give everyone a chance to play Ranked), but the rentals feels like a half-cooked bread. Too hard yet too soft. None rental players has access to legendary equipment, camo, and more or less 15 ++ point captain (give or take). [Rental] players only get no retraining captains (unless the player is a veteran and have a 19 point captain and is there to test or troll). CV, I have no comment. I don't own any (not even premium), Just pray that the player knows what he is doing. My experience (in this ranked battle), half carried the team up (win), the other half carried the team home (loss).
  2. S0und_Theif

    ST, battleship Ohio

    Looks like we are on a new naval arms race boys. US 457 T9 Georgia T10 Ohio Britain Responds with her own 457 T9 "Temeraire ?" - Lion armed with 457. 6 guns. T10 Thunderer Germany sees Britain making 457, they respond with 480 T10 "H-42" Japan already laughing as they have 460. Now they create 480 Super Yamato (A-150) T10 "A-150" - Super Yamato armed with 6 - 480. Note: Originally A-150 is armed with 510. That would take a 40s reload and ranges that could reach the entire map. To make the game fair, anything 500 mm is banned. Unless there is a T11 in the works?
  3. Thank you very much.
  4. Full details here Pan-America and Commonwealth of Nations are near eachother in the suggestion tab. It is understood that not all ships will be implemented or agreed by the community and WG. But I tried my best to get info with limited resource. Totaling of 11 Factions. 7 Countries and 4 Group of Nations. Can WOWS tech tree do a WOT style tech tree? i.e. 2 to 3 ships in 1 tier and then merge again in the next tier without researching all 3?
  5. Hi WG Dev Team, Requestion to add 2 IJN ships in Pan-Asia as a Branch tech tree. Like the Pan-America and Pan-Europe Tech Tree suggestion, I have noticed that they can have branches that may have different play style but still keep their gimmik (i.e. IJN Destroyer branch and USSR Destroyer branch). In Pan-Asia, some IJN ships were surrendered and gave to ROC as war booty. 2 of these ships are Tan Yang (IJN Yukikaze "Kagerou Class") and Fen Yang (IJN Yoizuki "Akizuki Class"). Not only IJN ships but some Russian ships sold to Indonesian Navy. KRI Brawidjaja (Bezzhalostnyi). Please make them as branch tech tree. As Pan-Asia really does not have much of a tech tree other than just Destroyers. Pan-America, Pan-Europe and Commonwealth of Nation may or may not have a complete Battleship tech tree, but they have a high chance to have a complete Cruiser tech tree. Pan-America and Pan-Europe also have branch Destroyer tech trees. Hope you consider this suggestion. Thanks :)
  6. Forward Guns Branch (The French way) T7 Strasbourg Armament: 8 × 330 mm (13 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 × 130 mm(5.1 in)/45 guns (3 x 4 and 2 x 2) 8 × 37 mm (1.5 in)/50 guns (4 x 2) 8 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/76 Hotchkiss MG (8 x 1) Armour: Belt: Dunkerque: 225 mm Strasbourg: 283 mm Deck: Dunkerque: 115 – 125 mm Strasbourg: 127 – 137 mm Turrets: Dunkerque: 150 – 330 mm Strasbourg: 160 – 360 mm Conning tower: 270 mm Note: Armour shows the difference between Dunkerque and Strasbourg. While both ships will have 26s reload time, only Dunkerque will get the WD40 Armament reload booster, while Strasbourg dose not. Question: Should Dunkerque move up to T7 along with her sister Strasbourg or stay at T6? T8 Richelieu Armament: 8 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (2 x 4) 9× 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: No change. Side Note: Richelieu's Hull A is similar to Clemenceau, the 3rd sister of the Richelieu class, where she recieves 2 extra secondary turrets in her sides insted of usual AA armament of 37mm and 13.2mm were placed. T9 Alsace (N3) Armament: 12 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (3 x 4) 9 × 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) 24 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/45 guns (12 x 2) Note: No change. Note: The only odd one in the branch as she has rear turret. Side Note: N3 design was the approved design by France since the 380 mm in quad turret is already a proven gun. N2 design would be 9 x 406 mm and N1 would be 9 x 380 mm. T10 Liberte Armament: 8 x 431 mm (17 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 x 127 mm (5 in)/54 guns (8 x 2) 9 x 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: Republique has 1 forward and 1 rear turret, Liberte has both turret in front and none in the rear. Traditional Style Branch T7 Lyon Armament: 16 x 340 mm (13.4 in)/45 guns (4 x 4) 24 × 130 mm(5.1 in)/45 guns (4 x 4 and 4 x 2) 40 × 37 mm (1.5 in)/50 guns (20 x 2) 24 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/76 Hotchkiss MG (12 x 2) Note: No change. Side Note: there were 2 other designs for Lyon and they can be sold as premium. Other Design 1 (Turret Configuration): There was a competing design for Lyon with 2 turrets forward (A, B)and 2 turrets rear (X, Y) (The center turret (C) was moved forward). This means she can fire 8 guns insted of only 4. (source: Journal of United States Artillery, example Tourville) Other Design 2 (Armament Size): there were plans to mount Lyon with 8 380 mm guns, but later abandoned due to time constraints. Personal Opinion: Lyon seems to have a mistake in her design in an engineering stand point. Her funnel is in the front near the bridge tower. Does this mean either the engine is between Turret A and Turret C and have extra long gears to the propeller. Or the engine is in the correct position (which is near in the middle) and have created a long shaft funnel to go forward. Which may heat up the magazine room in Turret C and cause catastrophic explosion. I know im being nit picky on this but it just looks wrong. We can open a discussion this in another topic in the forum. T8 "Gascogne" type Armament: 8 × 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (2 x 4) 9× 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: She is Gascogne in all manner and configuration but she is not Gascogne. Gascogne is a premium and will find another name for her, but the configuration of the armament replicates Gascogne. T9 Flandre (N2) Armament: 9 × 406 mm (16 in)/?? guns (3 x 3) 9 × 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) 24 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/45 guns (12 x 2) Note: Flandre is the 4th sister of the Alsace class. France always likes to make fun of the 4th sister as they are different than the other 3. (i.e. Richelieu -> Gascogne, Lyon -> Tourville) Note: The N2 design arms her with 406 mm (16 in) instead of 380 mm (15 in) in 9 guns. Note: She will look, feel, smell like Iowa class due to her number of guns and configuration. Side Note: N3 design was the approved design by France since the 380 mm in quad turret is already a proven gun. N2 design would be 9 x 406 mm and N1 would be 9 x 380mm. T0 Republique Armament: 8 x 431 mm (17 in)/50 guns (2 x 4) 16 x 127 mm (5 in)/54 guns (8 x 2) 9 x 152 mm (6 in)/55 guns (3 x 3) Note: No change. Full details Yes, my DD tech tree is one tier off. It was before they release their DD line for Public Test.
  7. Or We can do a WOT style tech tree. 2 Tier 7, choose your poison (Ersatz Yorck with Thin Armor vs Gneisenau with 2 guns less), then progress to Tier 8 while researching only 1 of the 2. T10 BC ill leave it blank for now. There are no plans or paper for a "Super O Class" thai I can find. Unless WG has the plans secretly. Next thing you will see is 357 version for the Conqueror. 9 x 406 / 419 = Lion 12 x 419 = Conqueror 6 x 457 = "Temeraire" 8 x 457 = Thunderer Then Japan gets the Super Yamato (A-150). But insted of the 510, they went with the 480 with 6 guns. Anything 500 is considered as T11. Unless WG implements it to T10, then US and Germany can respond with their 508. No info with the rest of the nation if they have anything beyond 500. I like the T8 to T10, may i know where you got the source other than TZoli. TZoli's work is great Your research may complete the missing T8 to T10 Italian Cruiser line. Hence why WG still did not implement the Italian tech tree. https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/36016-italian-tech-tree-suggestion-incomplete-need-help/ Full Details in the link.
  8. S0und_Theif

    Pan-America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

    Adding incomplete set of battleships for Pan-America. Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know. T3 Minas Geraes (BR) Armament: 12 - 12 in (305 mm)/45 guns (6 × 2) 22 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/50 guns (22 x 1) 18 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (18 x 1) 8 - 1 pdr (37 mm) guns (8 x 1) Note: Only 10 guns can be fired on a full broadside. 2 guns are blocked by the super structure. T4 Rivadavia (AR) Armament: 12 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (6 x 2) 12 - 6 in (152 mm)/50 guns (12 x 1) 16 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (16 x 1) Note: All 12 guns can be fired if positioned correctly. Like the German Kaiser Battleship T5 Almirante Latorre (CL) Armament: 10 - 14 in (356 mm)/45 guns (5 x 2) 16 - 6 in (152 mm)/50 guns (16 x 1) 2 - 3 in (76 mm) guns (2 x 1) 4 - 1.9 in (47 mm) guns (4 x 1) Note: Never completed in Chile. Sold to Britain as HMS Canada. T6 Riachuelo (BR) Armament: 8 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (4 x 2) 20 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (20 x 1) 10 - 2 pdr (40 mm) guns (10 x 1) Note: Resembles QE in many ways as Brazil was impressed with the success of QE class T7 British K2 or K3 for South American Battleship Armament: (K2) 8 - 15 in (356 mm)/45 guns (4 x 2) or 8 - 16 in (406 mm)/45 guns (4 x 2) 12 - 6 in (152 mm)/50 guns (6 × 2) 6 - 4.7 in (119 mm)/40 AA guns (6 × 1) 8 - 2 pdr (40 mm) /40 AA guns (8 × 1) Armament: (K3) 9 - 15 in (356 mm)/45 guns (3 x 3) or 9 - 16 in (406 mm)/45 guns (3 x 3) 12 - 6 in (152 mm)/50 guns (6 × 2) 6 - 4.7 in (119 mm)/40 AA guns (6 × 1) 8 - 2 pdr (40 mm) /40 AA guns (8 × 1) Note: This is only fictional as with the success of the QE designs, Brazil, Argentina, and Chile tried to procure further developents of the class due to South American Naval Arms Race. T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Nation Legend: (BR) = Brazil (CO) = Colombia (US) = USA (EE) = Estonia (AR) = Argentina (VE) = Venezuela (UK) = UK (ES) = Spain / Espania (CL) = Chile (EC) = Ecuador (RU) = Russia (SE) = Sweden (PE) = Peru (NL) = Netherlands (MX) = Mexico
  9. S0und_Theif

    Pan Europe Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

    Adding incomplete set of battleships for Pan-Europe. Its the best I can dig up with what I have. NOTE: T8 to T10 are pure speculation only. T3 Espana (ES) Armament: 8 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (4 x 2) 20 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (20 x 1) 4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (4 x 1) 2 - 0.3 in (7.62mm) MG (2 x 1) T4 Tegetthoff (AT) Armament: 12 - 12 in (305 mm) guns (4 x 3) 12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (12 x 1) 20 - 2.6 in (66 mm) guns (20 x 1) Note: Viribus Unitis sister T5 Ersatz Monarch (AT) Armament: 10 - 14 in (355 mm) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) 14 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (14 x 1) 20 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (20 x 1) 2 - 1.9 in (47 mm) guns (2 x 1) Note: Tegettoff's successor. Never built as Austro-Hungarian empire fell and lost WW1 Spain Branch T6 Reina Victoria Eugenia (ES) Armament: Initial: 8 - 13.5 in (343 mm) guns (4 x 2) Upgrade to: 8 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (4 x 2) 20 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (20 x 1) 10 - 2 pdr (40 mm) guns (10 x 1) Note: Resembles QE in many ways as Spain was impressed with the success of QE class Note: WG did not stop giving P.E. Friedrich her theoretical upgrade at T6, this is no exception. T7 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input. Note: Probably a preliminary Littorio with 9 - 12.6 in (320 mm) guns and later upgrade to 6 - 15 in (380 mm) guns. See Italian Tech Tree Suggestion (Incomplete) for full details. T8 Spanish "Littorio" Armament: 9 - 12.6 in (320 mm) guns (3 x 3) Upgrade to: 9 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (3 x 3) 12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3) 12 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (12 x 1) 20 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (10 x 2) 32 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Breda AA guns (16 x 2) Note: Spain was looking around for a new battleship, they were interested with the Littorio and would have purchased her if WW2 did not start too early. T9 Spanish "Isonzo (UP 41)" Armament: 9 - 16 in (406 mm) guns (3 x 3) 12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3) 12 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (12 x 1) 20 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (10 x 2) 32 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Breda AA guns (16 x 2) Note: With the success of the Littorio class, Spain further their ship building alliance with Italy and procure their own UP 41 if WW2 did not start too early. Note: Stretching the limits of Spanish and Italian ship building alliance if WW2 did not start too early. T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Netherlands Branch T6 1913 Battleship Proposal (NL) Armament: Initial: 8 - 13 in (340 mm) guns (4 × 2) Upgrade to: 8 - 14 in (356 mm) guns (4 x 2) 16 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (16 × 1) 12 - 3 in (75 mm) (12 × 1) Note: 2 designs was proposed, one from German (Bayern Class) and the other from Britain (QE Class) Note: WG did not stop giving P.E. Friedrich her theoretical upgrade at T6, this is no exception. T7 Design 1047 Armament: Initial: 9 - 11.1 in (283 mm) guns (3 x 3) Upgrade to: 6 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (3 x 2) 12 × 4.7 in (120 mm) guns (6 × 2) 14 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (7 × 2) 8 × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon AA guns (8 × 1) Note: Dutch Scharnhorst T8 Dutch "Bismarck" Armament: Initial: 12 - 11.1 in (283 mm) guns (4 x 3) Upgrade to: 8 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (4 x 2) 12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (6 × 2) 16 - 4.1 in (105 mm) guns (8 × 2) 16 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (8 × 2) 20 - 0.79 in (20 mm) guns (20 × 1) Note: With the success of the Design 1047 Class, Netherlands further their ship building alliance with Germany and procure their own Bismarck class with 2 smoke stack if WW2 did not start too early. T9 Dutch "F.D. Grosser" Armament: 8 - 16 in (406 mm) guns (4 × 2) 12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (6 × 2) 16 - 4.1 in (105 mm) guns (8 × 2) 16 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (8 × 2) 20 - 0.79 in (20 mm) guns (20 × 1) Note: Stretching the limits of Dutch and German ship building alliance if WW2 did not start too early. Note: Germany would not sell them their 420 mm. T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Nation Legend: PL = Poland PT = Portugal ES = Spain / Espania NL = Netherlands GR = Greece RO = Romania EE = Estonia SE = Sweden AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)
  10. S0und_Theif

    Pan-America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

    Adding incomplete set of light cruisers for Pan-America. Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know. T2 Almirante Abreu (BR) Armament: (Intended) 10 - 5 in (127 mm)/50 guns (10 x 1) 8 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (8 x 1) Note: Originally built for Brazil, but not completed. Later bought by the US as USS Albany T3 Bahia (BR) Armament: 10 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/50 guns (10 x 1) 6 - 1.9 in (47 mm)/50 guns (6 x 1) 2 - 18.0 in (457 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) T4 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T5 Almirante Brown (AR) Armament: 6 - 7.5 in (190 mm)/52 guns (3 × 2) 12 - 4 in (102 mm)/45 DP guns (6 × 2) 6 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (6 x 1) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) Note: Like Soviet cruiser Kirov at T5, big guns but thin armor. T6 La Argentina (AR) Armament: 9 - 6 in (152 mm)/50 guns (3 × 2) 8 - 4 in (102 mm)/45 DP guns (4 × 2) 8 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (8 x 1) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) Note: Modified Arethusa Class with 9 guns T7 Capitan Prat (CL) Armament: 15 - 6 in (152 mm)/47 guns (5 x 3) 8 - 5 in (130 mm)/25 DP guns (8 × 1) 16 - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors AA guns (4 x 4) 4 - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors AA guns (2 x 2) 18 - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon AA guns (18 x 1) Note: Brooklyn class sold to Chile. Argentina and Brazil also have them, T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Nation Legend: (BR) = Brazil (CO) = Colombia (US) = USA (EE) = Estonia (AR) = Argentina (VE) = Venezuela (UK) = UK (ES) = Spain / Espania (CL) = Chile (EC) = Ecuador (RU) = Russia (SE) = Sweden (PE) = Peru (NL) = Netherlands (MX) = Mexico
  11. S0und_Theif

    Commonwealth of Nations Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

    Adding incomplete set of light and heavy cruisers for Commonwealth of Nations. Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know. T2 Niobe (CA) Armament: 16 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (16 x 1) 14 - 12 pdr (76 mm) guns (14 x 1) 3 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (3 x 1) 2 - 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) T3 Encounter (AU) Armament: 11 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (11 x 1) 9 - 12 pdr (76 mm) guns (9 x 1) 6 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (6 x 1) 3 - 0.303 (7.7 mm) machine guns (3 x 1) 2 - 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) T4 Melbourne (AU) Armament: 8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (8 x 1) 2 - 3 in (76 mm ) guns (2 x 1) 3 - 0.303 (7.7 mm) machine guns (3 x 1) 2 - 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) T5 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T6 Hobart (AU) Armament: 8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 2) 8 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 2) 4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (4 x 1) 8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4) Note: Perth and Sydney sister Note: Modified Leander T7 Gambia (NZ) Armament: 12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3) 8 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 2) 8 - 2 pdr (40 mm) guns (2 x 4) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) Note: Crown Colony Class T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Heavy Cruiser Branch T7 Canberra (AU) Armament: 8 - 8 in (203 mm) guns (4 x 2) 4 - 4.7 in (119 mm) guns (4 x 1) 4 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 1) 4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) AA guns (4 x 1) 8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4) Note: Based on British Heavy Cruiser Town Class T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Nation Legend: CA = Canada AU = Australia NZ = New Zealand
  12. S0und_Theif

    Pan Europe Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

    Adding incomplete set of light and heavy cruisers for Pan-Europe. Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know. T2 Reina Regente (ES) Armament: 10 - 5.5 in (140 mm) guns (10 x 1) 12 - 6 pdr (57 mm) guns (12 x 1) 2 - 1 pdr (37 mm) guns (2 x 1) 8 - MG (8 x 1) T3 Java (NL) Armament: 10 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (10 x 1) 8 - 0.50 in (12.7 mm) MG (8 x 1) T4 Navarra (ES) Armament: 9 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (9 x 1) 4 - 3 pdr (47mm) guns (4 x 1) 4 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 2) T5 Gotland (SE) Armament: 6 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (2 x 2 and 2 x 1) 4 - 3 in (75 mm) guns (4 x 1) 4 - 0.98 in (25 mm) AA guns (4 x 1) 8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 2) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) T6 Almirante Cervera (ES) Armament: 8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 1) 4 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 1) 3 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (3 x 1) 12 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedoes tubes (4 x 3) Netherlands Branch (No Torpedo Light Cruiser) T7 De Ruyter (NL) Armament: 7 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 1 x 1) 10 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (5 x 2) 8 - 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning (8 x 1) T8 De Zeven Provinciën (NL) Armament: 8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 2) 8 - 2.2 in (57 mm) AA guns (4 x 2) 8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 2) T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Sweden Branch (With Torpedo Light Cruiser) T7 Gota Lejon (SE) Armament: 7 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 1 x 1) 4 - 2.2 in (57 mm) Bofors guns (4 x 1) 11 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (1 x 4 and 3 x 2 and 1 x 1) 6 - torpedo tubes (2 x 3) T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Spain Branch (Heavy Cruiser) T7 Canarias (ES) Armament: 8 - 8 in (203 mm) guns (4 x 2) 8 - 4.7 in (119 mm) guns (4 x 2) 12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (6 x 2) 3 - 0.79 in (20 mm) AA guns (3 x 1) 12 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (4 x 3) Note: Based on British Heavy Cruiser County Class T8 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T9 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input T10 ???? Armament: ???? Note: No Data. Need Input Nation Legend: PL = Poland PT = Portugal ES = Spain / Espania NL = Netherlands GR = Greece RO = Romania EE = Estonia SE = Sweden AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)
  13. hmmm giving me an idea on your feedback. If Gnei will be buffed, buff her HP and secondary base range to 7.5 km. Her asset is her speed. Get in, harass, get out, just like a raider. On the other hand If Gnei will be staying at T7, then lets remove Ersatz Yorck. T5 Derfflinger T6 Mackensen T7 Gneisenau 1944 T8 O Class (Double 380 mm) T9 O Class (Double 406 and 420 mm) T10 O Class (Triple 406 and 420 mm) The O Class has only 3 turret slot so 6 guns minimum and 9 guns maximum. Its ok if she is fat (wide) at T10, at least she can throw 9 shells at her targets. Plus the branch line is intended for speed (30 to 32 knots at least). Germany sacrificed guns to acheive this while Britain sacrificed armor to acheive theirs. 9 guns is also a plus for those who play Clan Battles and T10 Ranked. (Side Note: Half - half on the 12th season of Ranked with T10 ships) I agree with you on Vanguard's case. That did not stop WG with P.E. Friedrich and her theoretical upgrade in T6. Besides Lion class has 6 ships planned, 4 were named and 2 were underconstruction. 1 was modified and became HMS Vanguard, the other was scrapped. What if, she was not scrapped. What if Britain continued a 2nd Vanguard with the 2nd incomplete hull and complete her. Initially armed with 380 mm of the QE. Then later upgrade to 381 mm of the Monarch. Higher velocity and increased damage without loosing her main asset, speed and also her weakness, thinn armor. She is fast, she also can upgrade her teeth, but she is also punishable. Your KGV at T8 with upgradeable Monarch guns, I'm half - half on it, as it will loose her identity. Though 381 mm is the intended armament before settleing for 356 mm. (Blame the Washington and London Treaty). I would like to see a Hull C upgrade for KGV, Monarch and Lion. You loose the float plane, but gain additional AA (I dont have the Duke of York, but I think she has no float plane but have a buffed AA). Now with your feedback, UK may now have as much as 5 BB Branch at T9 and T10. G3 (406 and 419 limit) N3 (457 in dual guns and 4 turret slot. 12 457 mm is overkill) 406 and 419 Lion and Conqueror 457 Lion and Conqueror (British Georgia and Ohio) 406 and 419 Battlecruiser (T9 - 8 Guns, T10 - 12 Guns) Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it. 🙂
  14. Hi Wargameing Dev team, I would like to suggest a complete Pan-Europe Destroyer line. With the future release of the Friseland (mmmm..... fries......) and combining Blyskawica to Pan-Europe faction, World of Warships will now have 11 factions to choose from. 7 Nations and 4 Group of Nations. T1 Afonso de Albuquerque (PT) Armament: 4 - 120 mm guns (4 x 1) 2 - 76 mm guns (2 x 1) 4 - 40 mm AA guns (4 x 1) Note: T1 Sloop / Aviso. Considered as a T1 cruiser in the game. T2 Aetos (GR) Armament: 4 - 4 in (102 mm)/50 guns (4 x 1) 4 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (4 x 1) Note: Originally built for the Argentines but later sold to the Greeks T3 Alsedo (EE) Armament: 4 - 4 in (102 mm)/60 guns (4 x 1) 1 - 2 pdr (40 mm) pom-pom Mk. II (1 x 1) 2 - 0.30 in (7.62 mm) MG (2 x 1) 9 - 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3) Note: Originally Avtroil (Russian Orfey Class), Captured by Britain 1918, gave it to Estonia, then Sold to Peru 1933 as Almirante Villiar (See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion) T4 Lennuk (EE) Armament: 5 - 4 in (102 mm)/60 guns (5 x 1) 1 - 2.5 in (63.3 mm) Model 1916 (1 x 1) 3 - 0.30 in (7.62 mm) MG (3 x 1) 9 - 18 in (457 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3) Note: Originally Miklucho Maklai (Russian Izyaslav Class), Captured by Britain 1918, gave it to Estonia, then Sold to Peru 1933 as Alimarnte Guise (See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion) T5 Alcala Galiano (ES) Armament: 5 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/45 guns (5 x 1) 1 - 3 in (76 mm) AA guns (1 x 1) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) Note: Also a possible T5 Pan America Destroyer (Juan de Garay [AR]) See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion or T5 Douro (PT) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (119 mm)/45 guns (4 x 1) 2 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (2 x 1) 8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4) Note: Also a possible T5 Pan America Destroyer (Antioquia [CO]) See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion T6 Regele Ferdinand (RO) Armament: 5 - 4.7 in (120 mm) guns 1 - 3 in (76 mm) AA gun 2 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3) Note: None T7 Grom (PL) Armament: 7 - 4.7 in (120 mm) (3 × 2, 1 × 1) 4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA (2 × 2) 8 - 0.52 in (13.2 mm) MG (4 × 2) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 3) Note: Blyskawica sister and Lead of her Class From T8 to T10, Netherlands and Sweden were capable of building ships after WW2. Spain went to civil war and is in financial ruin but still managed to build their own ship with US 5 in (127 mm) as optional armament as well as US sold Spain some of their Fletcher, A.M. Summer, and Gearing Class surplus. Greece dont have the finance to build their own ships, hence bought American surplus Fletchers, A.M. Summers, and Gearings. Portugal did not re-arm their navy after WW2. Estonia was absorbed by the Soviet Union. Poland and Roamnia is under the Soviet block, hance ships are protected by Soviet Union Navy. Sweden Branch (With Torpedo) T8 Oland (SE) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/45 cal Bofors M/44 (2 x 2) 7 - 1.6 in (40 mm)/56 cal Bofors M/36 (2 x 2 and 3 x 1) 8 - 0.79 in (20 mm)/60 cal Bofors M/40 (2 x 4) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tube (3 x 2) Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. T9 Halland (SE) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns m/50 (2 × 2) 2 - 2.2 in (57 mm) Bofors guns m/50 (1 × 2) 6 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns m/48 (6 × 1) 8 - 21.0 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 5 and 1 × 3) "Anti Submarine Mortar" Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. T10 Hälsingland (SE) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns m/44 (2×2) 7 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns m/48 (7×1) 6 - 21.0 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 x 6) "Anti Submarine Mortar" Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. Netherlands Branch (Without Torpedo) T8 Gerard Callenburgh Armament: 5 - 4.7 in (120 mm) guns (2 × 2 and 1 × 1) 4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 2) 4 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (2 x 2) Note: Originally armed with torpedoes, would be wise to remove them as to teach players on their support role and AA specialty like the Friseland. Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. T9 Holland (NL) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns (2×2) 1 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA gun (1 x 1) More can be added "Anti Submarine Mortars" Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. T10 Groningen (NL) Armament: 4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns (2 × 2) 6 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (6 × 1) "Anti Submarine Mortars" Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. Note: Friseland Sister ship Spain Branch (No Torpedo at T9 and T10) T8 Audaz (ES) Armament: (Original) 5 - 4.1 in (105 mm)/45 DP guns (5 x 1) Too small for T8 Armament: (WG Modified) Initial: 5 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (5 x 1) Upgradeable to: 5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1) US Fletcher Surplus 4 - 1.5 in (37 mm) AA guns (4 x 1) 8 - 0.79 in(20 mm) AA guns (4 x 2) 6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 2) Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years. T9 Oquendo (ES) Armament: (Hull A) Initial: 4 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2) Upgradeable to: 4 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2) US Gearing Surplus 6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2) Armament: (Hull B) Initial: 6 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2) Upgradeable to: 6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2) 6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2) Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. Note: Spanish built destroyer. Completed 1963. Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years. T10 Roger de Lauria (ES) Armament: Initial: 6 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2) Upgradeable to: 6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2) US Gearing Surplus 6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2) Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class. Note: Spanish built destroyer. Completed 1969. Note: She is an improved and enlarged version of Oquendo Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years. US Surplus branch aquired by Spain and Greece T8 Niki (GR) Originally USS Eberle "Gleaves Class (US)" Armament: 4 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 DP guns (4 x 1) 4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 × 2) 7 - 0.97 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (7 x 1) 5 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 5) T9 Lepanto (ES) Originally USS Capps "Fletcher Class (US)" or T9 Thyella (GR) Originally USS Bradford "Fletcher Class (US)" Armament: 5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1) 10 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (5 x 2) 7 to 12 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (7 x 1 or 6 x 2) 10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 5) T10 Miaoulis (GR) Originallt USS Ingraham "Allan M Summer Class" (US) Armament: 6 - 5 in (130 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [4 sec reload] 12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2) 10 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1) 10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) or T10 Langara (ES) Originally USS Leary "Gearing Class (US)" Armament: 6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [3 sec reload] 12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2) 10 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1) 10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) I know some of the suggested ships may not make it as WG will put other ships that were not available in the books or internet, but I am sure they are working on to complete the Pan-Europe tech tree. Nation Legend: PL = Poland PT = Portugal ES = Spain / Espania NL = Netherlands GR = Greece RO = Romania EE = Estonia SE = Sweden AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)
  15. No Worries. KM BB T3 Nassau T4 Kaiser T5 Koning T6 Bayern T7 L21a or L22c T8 Bismarck T9 Grosser (H39 / H41 Double) T10 Kurfurst (H39 / H41 Triple) KM BC T5 Derfflinger T6 Mackensen T7 Ersatz Yorck T8 Gneisenau 1944 T9 O Class (Double) T10 O Class (Triple) Battleships T7 L21a or L22c Displacement: 42,000T Length: 235 m (771 ft) Beam: 32 m (105 ft) Draft: 9 m (29 - 30 ft) Speed: 22.5 to 24.5 knots Armament: (L21a) 8 - 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) 12 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/45 guns (12 x 1) 8 - 88 mm (3.5 in)/45 or 105 mm (4.1 in)/45 guns (8 x 1 or 4 x 2) Note: This version of battleship may look like P.E. Friedrich. Turret X and Turret Y has some space. Battlecruiser Branch T5 Derfflinger  Armament: 8 - 305 mm (12 in)/50 guns (4 x 2) 14 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/45 guns (14 x 1) 12 - 88 mm (3.5 in)/45 guns (12 x 1) Note: Plays like Kongou. Note: British Battlecruiser Tiger shares this design, playstyle and tier. (See British Tech Tree Suggestion) T6 Mackensen Armament: 8 - 350 mm (13.8 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) 14 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/45 guns (14 x 1) 8 - 88 mm (3.5 in)/45 guns (8 x 1) Note: Plays like P.E. Friedrich. T7 Ersatz Yorck Armament: 8 - 380 mm (15 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) 14 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/45 guns (14 x 1) 8 - 88 mm (3.5 in)/45 guns (8 x 1) Note: Plays like P.E. Friedrich but with Bayern guns. T8 Gneisenau 1944  Armament: 6 - 380 mm (15 in)/34 guns (3 x 2) 12 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/28 (6 x 2) 14 - 105 mm (4.1 in)/33 (7 x 2) 16 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/30 (8 x 2) 16 - 20 mm (0.79 in)/38 (4 x 4)? 6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3) Note: Gneisenau move to T8 Battlecruiser from T7 Battleship. Note: She gets the Bismarck treatment. 7.5 km base range for secondary batteries. Note: She has torpedos. Opinion Needed: Should Gneisenau have 2 separate models (1944 as Battleship and 1938 as Cruiser), or merged together at T8 as a battleship/battlesruiser and her armament will be upgraded like how the Mogami is upgraded? Just a Thought: Would it be possible if the following 7 ships can interchange their tier depending on their ship role. (Example T7 as a battleship but becomes T9 as a cruiser and Vice versa) Alaksa [US], Azuma [JP], Kronshtadt [RU/SU], Dunkerque [FR], Scharnhorst [DE], Andrea Doria [IT], and "British Alaska" [GB] T9 O class (Double) Armament: 6 - 380 mm (15 in)/34 guns (3 x 2) possible to upgrade to 406 mm (16 in)/ 34 (3 x 2) 12 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/28 (6 x 2) 14 - 105 mm (4.1 in)/33 (7 x 2) 16 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/30 (8 x 2) 16 - 20 mm (0.79 in)/38 (4 x 4)? 6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)  Note: Like the Friedrich der Grosse (H39 / H41), Double meanse 2 guns per turret . Note: She gets the Bismarck treatment. 7.5 km base range for secondary batteries. Note: She has torpedos. Note: T9 and T10 German battlecruiser sacrifice number of guns to attain speeds of 30 to 32 knots. Note: Gneisenau 1938 merges to O class from pocket battleship to battlecruiser. T10 O Class (Triple) Armament: 9 - 380 mm (15 in)/34 guns (3 x 3) possible to upgrade to 406 mm (16 in)/ 34 (3 x 3) 12 - 150 mm (5.9 in)/28 (6 x 2) 14 - 105 mm (4.1 in)/33 (7 x 2) 16 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/30 (8 x 2) 16 - 20 mm (0.79 in)/38 (4 x 4)? 6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)  Note: Like the Grosser Kurfürst (H39 / H41), Triple meanse 3 guns per turret. Note: She gets the Bismarck treatment. 7.5 km base range for secondary batteries. Note: She has torpedos. Note: T9 and T10 German battlecruiser sacrifice number of guns to attain speeds of 30 to 32 knots. RN BB T3 Bellerophon T4 Orion T5 Iron Duke T6 Queen Elizabeth T7 King George V T8 Monarch T9 Lion T10 Conqueror RN BC T5 Tiger T6 Renown T7 "Admiralty / Hood" (Anson / Howe) T8 "Vanguard" (Beatty / Jollice) T9 King Edward VII T10 Thunderer (Note: looks like the name thunderer will be a premium as of May 2019) RN Forward Facing Guns Branch T8 Rodney T9BB N3 Variant 1 (3 x 3 or 3 x 2) T9BC N3 Variant 2 (4 x 3 or 4 x 2) T10BB G3 Variant 1 (3 x 3) T10BC G3 Variant 2 (4 x 3) Battlecruiser Branch T5 Tiger Armament: 8 - 343 mm (13.5 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) 12 - 152 mm (6 in)/45 guns (12 x 1) 2 - 76mm (3 in)/45 AA guns (2 x 1) More AA needed please Note: Kongou's design inspired her. She was suppose to look like Princess Royal or Queen Mary, but when the British designed Kongou and found her design more uperior, they altered Tiger to look like Kongou. Note: Due to kongou's design insperation, she plays like Kongou. Same tier. Note: German Battlecruiser Derfflinger shares this design, playstyle and tier. (See German Tech Tree Suggestion) T6 Renown (1939) Armament: 6 - 381 mm (15 in)/42 guns (3 x 2) 20 - 113 mm (4.5 in)/45 DP guns (10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 20 mm Note: Renown will represent her 1939 upgrade like QE at T6. Note: The major difference between her counter part, the German Mackensen Class, is that Renown carries 6 - 381 mm (15 in)/42 guns, while Mackensen carries 8 - 350 mm (13.8 in)/45 guns at T6. T7 Anson or Howe (Hood Class 1940) Armament 8 - 381 mm (15 in)/42 guns guns (4 x 2) 20 - 113 mm (4.5 in)/45 DP guns (10 x 2) or 20 - 133 mm (5.25 in)/50 DP guns (10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlkon guns Note: Anson or Howe will represent Hood's 1940 upgrade if Hood did not sank with her battle with Bismarck. The Queen Ann's Mansion superstructure. QE's secondaries of 113 mm (4 in) or KGV's secondaries of 133 mm (5.25 in). As well as thicker armor. Note: Implemented, Anson or Howe not only compliment/counter German battlecruiser Ersatz Yorck at T7 (See German Tech Tree Suggestion), but also compliment/counter US battlecruisers Constellation AND Constitution (Both Lexington class battlecruisers) at T7 (See US Tech Tree Suggestion). Planned and designed at almost the same year (Late 1918 to early 1920). Historical Note: If Hood got her 1940 upgrade before battleing Bismarck, she "might" have survived her duel with Bismarck. British Admiralty knows Hood's weakness is her thin armor. T8 Beatty or Jollice (Vanguard Class) Armament: 8 - 381 mm (15 in)/42 guns (4 x 2) possible to upgrade to 381 mm (15 in)/45 guns 18 or 20 - 133 mm (5.25 in)/50 DP guns (8 x 2 or10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlkon guns Note: She is vanguard in many aspects, but with gun upgradeable to make her competitive during high tier battles. Note: Possible to upgrade her guns from 381 mm (15 in)/42 guns to 381 mm (15 in)/ 45 guns found in the Monarch for better penetration. T9 King Edward VII Armament: Design 1 8 - 381 mm (15 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) possible to upgrade to 406 mm (16 in)/45 or 419 mm (16.5 in)/45 18 or 20 - 133 mm (5.25 in)/50 DP guns (8 x 2 or 10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlkon guns Note: In this design, she is like the German O Class (Double), 2 guns per turret, 4 turrets. Note: T9 and T10 British battlecruiser sacrifice armor to attain speeds of 30 to 32 knots. Armament: Design 2 9 - 381 mm (15 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) possible to upgrade to 406 mm (16 in)/45 or 419 mm (16.5 in)/45 18 or 20 - 133 mm (5.25 in)/50 DP guns (8 x 2 or 10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlkon guns Note: In this design, her gun arrangement is more like of Lion class while still acheiving 30 to 32 knot speed. Note: T9 and T10 British battlecruiser sacrifice armor to attain speeds of 30 to 32 knots. T10 Thunderer Armament: 12 - 381 mm (15 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) possible to upgrade to 406 mm (16 in)/45 or 419 mm (16.5 in)/45 18 or 20 - 133 mm (5.25 in)/50 DP guns (8 x 2 or10 x 2) 32 - 40 mm 2-pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlkon guns Note: In this design, she is like the German O Class (Triple), 3 guns per turret, 4 turrets. Note: T9 and T10 British battlecruiser sacrifice armor to attain speeds of 30 to 32 knots. Forward Guns Battleships Branch T8 Rodney 1944 Armament: 9 - 406 mm (16 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) 12 - 152 mm (6 in)/50 guns (6 x 2) 6 - 120 mm (4.7 in)/40 AA guns (6 x 1) 48 - 40 mm 2 pdr AA guns (6 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon guns 2 - 622 mm (24.5 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) Note: Like Gneisenau 1944, Rodney 1944 also has a planned modernization in the USA. Hence she can fight in T8 battles. Note: Rodney's design code is O3. There are other designs coded out there made by the British. Note: These ships carry torpedo. T9 N3 Variant 1 (Battleship) G3 Variant 1 (Battlecruiser) Armament: (G3) 9 - 381 mm (15 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) upgradeable to 9 - 406 mm (16 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) Armament: (N3) 9 - 406 mm (16 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) upgradeable to 9 - 419 mm (16.5 in)/45 guns (3 x 3) Armament: (Secondaries and AA) 16 - 152 mm (6 in)/50 guns (8 x 2) 6 - 120 mm (4.7 in)/40 AA guns (6 x 1) 32 - 40 mm 2 pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon guns 2 - 622 mm (24.5 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) Note as Battlecruiser (G3): Gets smaller guns and thinner armor, but speed is 32 knots and longer hull. Note as Battleship (N3): Gets bigger guns and thicker armor, but speed is 25 knots and shorter hull. Note as Battleship (N3): Made the guns smaller to be competitive at T9 Note: These ships carry torpedo. T10 N3 Variant 2 (Battleship) G3 Variant 2 (Battlecruiser) Armament: (G3) 12 - 406 mm (16 in)/45 guns (4 x 3) upgradeable to 12 - 419 mm (16.5 in)/45 guns (4 x 3) Armament: (N3) 12 - 419 mm (16 in)/45 guns (4 x 3) upgradeable to 8 - 457 mm (18 in)/45 guns (4 x 2) Armament: (Secondaries and AA) 16 - 152 mm (6 in)/50 guns (8 x 2) 6 - 120 mm (4.7 in)/40 AA guns (6 x 1) 32 - 40 mm 2 pdr AA guns (4 x 1) ?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns ?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon guns 2 - 622 mm (24.5 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 1) Note as Battlecruiser (G3): Gets smaller guns and thinner armor, but speed is 32 knots and longer hull. Note as Battleship (N3): Gets bigger guns and thicker armor, but speed is 25 knots and shorter hull. Note as Battleship (N3): Made the 457mm guns lesser to be competitive at T10 Note: These ships carry torpedo. Full details is in British Tech tree Suggestion and German Tech Tree Suggestion in the Developers Section > Suggestions Tab
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