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cool story bro I love your double standards when it suits you. DD's can misplay and eat too much dmg from a CV but a CV cant misplay and get deplaned? Tell you what, you go find me ANY non brain dead CV player who isnt a liar and ask him if he gets deplaned whos fault it is. I'll wait here. The rest of what you wrote isnt worth responding to.

That's because its true?, Any average or better CV player doesn't eat flak and lose planes like a moron. So yes, if you lose all your planes it because you made mistakes, not because AA is overpowered. It's pretty well known after all.

Again, the average dmg numbers are equal to BB dmg numbers so that's just not true. Fighter planes anyone? Like for free? Also BB's are plane spotted from the moon so even if the CV isn't meaning to spot them they are spotted anyway. Well one thing the CV keeps its points in the game, and another is if you are being deplaned that's on the cv player for poor play. Temporarily, not permanently like ALL surface ships. And again, losing all your planes is on the CV player. Only the worst CV players lose all their planes. The dmg numbers work for balance, that's about it though. The rest of the interaction is shit and broken.

Perhaps read it again? CV's are hard capped in Randoms. Other ships are limited but not denied completely in CB's unlike CV's.

And you have Moggy ignoring all of it because he knows better. Who ever even says that? So typically the best players in the game are the best because they understand the game better than the average pleb. But hey, why would their opinion carry more weight than someone with 30k avg dmg after 20k battles? Put it this way, If CV's are so balanced and fair why are they hard capped in randoms? Why are they the ONLY ship EVER to be removed from CB or comp play? Why are they unanimously not wanted in KOTS by the best clans on all the servers? If they are balanced as people say why cant we have 4-5 per battle like all the other ship classes? Hey, I dont want RTS back either but at least they had to fight each other unlike todays open season version. People talk about the lack of alpha now but overall the dmg numbers are around the same anyway. Well yeah, anytime anyone posts about hating planes or CV's are broken all the CV apologists come circle jerk and tell him how wrong he is and how its all his fault. So yes, pretty much exactly what happens. LOL what a load of shit. So you cant move your CV from a long distance shot across the map? Im sorry, is your "W" key missing or? You cant launch planes while being shot at either? WOW, that's news to me, never knew you couldn't launch planes while under attack! Also literally everyone knows CV's don't counter each other. Sure you can mitigate the CV to a degree, sadly nearly all of the engagement is in the CV's hands not the surface ships.

Yeah or maybe a ship full of aviation fuel and munitions doesnt detonate?

Perhaps Moggy doesn't know as much as he thinks he does? Wouldn't take much since he thinks he knows everything. Honestly, if you have pro level CV mains telling you CV's arent right or broken what does that tell you? Like what has a CV main got to gain by saying CV's are broken? You guys think I'm closed minded about things, Moggy is just as bad if not worse. He refuses to listen to anybody. And you CV apologists aren't in your own circle jerk are you? Stuck in your own little vacuum?

Yes him, Warlord78, Gaishu, even Stratmania has said CV's are broken in some ways. Isnt it obvious? Your trying to say a T10 BB is more influential than a CV but if you pick a more mainstay BB it is in fact not true at all. And a surface ship risks both dmg output and actual ship hp. In fact the CV gets to keep his game points no matter how badly he plays in most cases. Something that is the exact opposite for surface ships. So yeah, while different mechanics is true it doesn't mean it fits or is fair in anyway which obviously it isnt. But its ok for you to post your "version" that CV's are perfectly fine? Ok hypocrite much? Yeah after all this time Ive never once tried any of the suggested ideas to "mitigate" the CV's dmg have I? What a dumb thing to say. Ive tried literally everything Ive ever read about mitigating CV's and one thing Ive learnt is most of the time your chances at mitigating the dmg largely comes down to how good the CV player is rather than how good your "dodging" techiniques are. Just because I refuse to play CV's doesnt mean I dont try things suggested, even by people I dislike. Why shouldn't I? You do, I hardly think facts are hyperbole but whatever. In fact I don't think a single thing in that post was hyperbole. I don't require your pity, and the fact is I dont hate the game, just CV's and WG for implementing such a broken ship design into an otherwise mostly decent game. If you're too blind to see how one sided the interaction is between CV's and surface ships then that's your problem and perhaps its you who deserves pity?

Wrong, most top level CV players ALL say CV's are broken or imbalanced or both. Yes, but the CV had to EARN his right to do so and there was AA that actually worked, RTS CV players didnt just get a free pass as you're trying to say. The had to actually fight the other CV player, unlike this fiasco now. Statistically RTS and reworked CV's do much the same avg dmg. Yes it would and it shows, they get to fly around and do whatever they like for free. They don't get sent back to port for playing badly and even if they do get sunk they still get to play the game. Its literally the most coddled class in the game. How about use a non HE spamming ship like Yamato? An argument you say? I would think so since they can spot anywhere, anytime on the map with ZERO risk. Talk about understatement. Agree with the first sentence, what should be considered is surface ship vs CV interaction. DD,s might be the most influential, certainly not the strongest class. They are easily the most countered and have the lowest dmg output and survival rates by a huge margin, while CV's have equal to BB dmg output, unlimited range and spotting and by far the highest survival rates and literally arent hard countered by anything. not even ANOTHER CV counters a CV. If that doesn't point out how ridiculously they don't fit the game idk what does. Apparently we keep going down this road because guys like yourself choose to ignore the facts about CV's.

Or Asian players like to abuse broken mechanics more is the other way of looking at it. And you know this how? Ive played on both NA and SEA extensively and the "average" player on both servers is rubbish. In fact just prior to leaving SEA the average player was a bot.

While what you say is generally true, Serral says hi.

Good for you, after all, you did master the game WAYYYYYY faster than everyone else. Just keep ignoring the fact youre spotted by the CV, FOR FREE, for everyone to take pot shots at and if youre going to try tell me you dont take dmg in CB or arent bothered by the cv spotting you then you are either playing Daring with insta smokes, the enemy team isnt any good at shooting at DD's or youre playing so far back its not worth shooting at you anyway. Or you are lying. I know for a fact anyone worth a damn in CB is shooting at the spotted DD if they possibly can. And this is what I think comes out your mouth whenever you try say CV's are fair or balanced.

See? Zero counters. Even another CV doesnt counter a CV. What a joke. Anyone who plays this bully class deserves zero karma. What a funny guy you are, CV's are anything but balanced. The ONLY thing balanced about them is their dmg numbers. This isn't really true either, a clan mate of mine did exactly this to learn how to better deal with that trash class, his findings were it helped against trash cv players but not anyone even remotely decent. Pretty sure you've been told this by CV players much better than yourself or multiple occasions. Curious as to how much you get paid to push the "CV's are fine" narrative when so many top CV players say exactly opposite to what you say? Sure this guy might not kill the CV but perhaps so BB's with spotter planes can sink the heaps of refuse and make everyone's game so much better.

Imagine a gaming company introducing a unit that has no counter? Wouldnt that be amazing?