NZXRedBaron1985

Useful tip, but as I keep saying, I don't have any of the ARP ships.

Oh, ok. So, would that mean, if I dropped ARP Kiri on one of my ships, she'll work just fine then, voice files and all?

Well then, I really can't explain why I have Kirishima and Iona's mental models, but not their ships; that is, unless Iona is more of a 'can be put anywhere' Captain. Is there any way I can find out just why I have them? I mean, it should stand to reason that, if I have these two, I should have their ships as well, right?

Oh man, I hope it isn't because I did have the ARP Kirishima at some point, but then sold it....

I just tried that; the only ARP content I have is a 10-point captain (mental model) for the ARP version of Kirishima, and a 10-point Iona. When I tried the gears thing, the only ARP option it had was to enable or disable the unique camouflages and effects of the ARP ships.

Over this past week, I came back to the game after having been away for nearly a year (new computer); and when I opened up my port, I had a surprise waiting for me: the Giulio Cesare, which was nice (on a side note, it's my highest tier ship). But I also had some high-point Japanese Captains, trained for the ARP ships that had not been there before, which leaves me somewhat baffled; are they meant to be in my port, and if they are meant to be there, then where is the ships for them?

If I recall right, HMS Neptune was supposed to be reassigned to the RNZN, but before they could arrange the formal 'handing over' ceremony, she was sunk in the Med.

Fun fact, the "Modified Leanders" originally were to serve in the RN as HMS Apollo, Amphion, and Phaeton; and indeed the first two Apollo and Amphion were part of the RN; they and the still under construction Phaeton were sold to the RAN, where they became HMAS Perth, Hobart and Sydney, respectively- Apollo in 1939, Amphion in 1938, and Phaeton in 1935. They were pretty different to the original Leanders too; two funnels, longer side armour, and split machinery for greater survivability.

Well, to be more correct, HMS Achilles as she was originally commissioned as was a standard Leander-class; the modifications she received were mostly due to war damage, such as her X turret being damaged by Japanese air attack in January 1943.

The specifics are rather interesting, if I remember them right; originally, under the terms of the treaty, all capital ships that were on the slips at that time were supposed to be cancelled and scrapped (some were allowed to be converted to be aircraft carriers though); the problem for Japan was that Mutsu had been in part paid for by donations from school-children. There was a lot of arguing over it, but eventually a compromise was made, where Japan had to pay the USA and the UK an amount that would allow the USN and RN to purchase a given number (two if I remember) of 16-in armed battleships each, and in turn would be allowed to finish constructing Mutsu.

That's generally what I was thinking. There'd be a T2 version modeled as a semi-generic single funneled cargo ship (along these lines) with a couple of light guns fore and aft, sort of thing. Then the T3 would be more on the lines of a twin-stack ocean liner, like RMS Carmania or SS Cap Trafalgar, carrying multiple cruiser grade guns.

What does any of that have to do with having a ship get split in half when a ram-kill is scored?

True enough; that's why I dug out the details of the Surrey-class. And if need be, the County-class could be split into the Kent/London-subclasses, and the Norfolk-subclass- some sources consider the three subclasses different enough to count as their own discreet classes of vessels. As for earlier ranks, there are a few of what they call "Armoured Cruisers" of the WWI era that could populate the early tiers; in no particular order, there's the Cressy-class, the Drake-class, the Monmouth-class, the Devonshire-class (1903), the Duke of Edinburgh-class, and the Warrior-class; there was also a Minotaur-class from 1906, but that might cause confusion with the Tier 10 light cruiser.

I've come back to the game recently, after a long time away, mainly due to the release of the first Royal Navy ships, and so far, been having a blast with them, despite not being that skilled. With that being said though, the RN does have something of a capability gap in my view; in that presently it lacks any of their 'big gun' heavy cruisers. Now, to be fair, the RN doctrine, responsibilities, and budget generally favoured cruisers with 152mm (6in) guns, especially in the run-up to WWII, but they nonetheless did indeed have some 'big gun' cruisers, and it might be nice to see some of them introduced, particularly given how notable some of them were. In fact, alongside the three real-life heavy cruiser classes the RN used- Hawkins-class, County-class (subdivided into the Kent, London and Norfolk subclasses), and the York-class, there's also a fourth class that was budgeted for and allocated constructional slipways for prior to being cancelled that could be used to help fill out the numbers. This was the Surrey-class, a two-ship class of HMS Surrey and HMS Northumberland, whose details (such that I could find) were as follows: Surrey class:10,000 tons standard.Propulsion: six boilers, two funnels, 60,000 shp for 30 knots legend draught, 29 knots deep draught.Armament: 4x2 8", 100 rpg; 4x1 4" AA, 200 rpg; 2 x 4cm pom-poms with 1,000 rpb; 2x4 21" torpedo tubes with 9 torpedoes.Aeronautical: two catapults with two aircraft.Armor:Engineering: 5.75" + 1" belt; 2,25" + 0.5" decks.Magazines: 5.75" + 0.5" upper strakes belt, 2.5" + 0.5" lower strakes belt; 3" + (3/8)" decks; 3" + 0.5" bulkheads.Steering gear: 1.5" deck. According to best estimates, the Surrey-class would be roughly equal to the USN's New Orleans-class, presently in-game at Tier 8; dimensions-wise they'd be slightly shorter and narrower than the County-class, but longer and fatter than a York. And for completeness, here's two sets of images I found on shipbucket, based on the actual naval blueprints for the Surrey-class, that could be used for the model? The initial design for the Surrey-class, from 1927. The modified design that the Surrey-class was ordered as, from 1929/1930.

Anyone else want to throw in their own thoughts?