Mechfori

我是贊同玩家確實大部份時候自找的，但，作為 DD 玩家我也必須指出機制上確實對某些特定船隻或船種存在極不平衡的狀况。 當你玩隻 DD CL 在高階場日常都是 3 ; 4隻雷達 +CV。誠然可以像上面所說的不上前結果是也做不了什麼而且炮雷根本就沒射程。 結果是上就自殺，不上就被駡。現在的場面基本要求整體 battle line 推但 BB CB 自然－句 HE Spamming 只想長程對轟。Cruiser 更甚 最後不就是如此這般。

on Fantasque right now ; French DD basically had - well - no AA to speak of , your gun is kind of slow on reload and your torp is at best average , you need to play it like its a CL but with great speed , be frugal with your shell type. Its kind of fitting to use hit and run kind of tactics.

Never find slow ship a problem in almost all op ; might be only specific one in specific op .. But yeah too many tend to be too hype up on the secondary objectives in op and fail cause not enough is centering on finishing the primary

but T9 are more likely to get matched against T10 and we all know how 380 struggle there ; can't fault that 81K HP though , not quite there with FDG , but not bad vs others ( especially others with 380 ), OK speed and maneuverability , OK AA, not really great concealment ... overall seems a re-gunned FDG with torp and a bit less HP, and seems a bit less AA too ; its a grown up Odin / Tirpitz

Its not DD vs CV , its in the end a matter of AA ... what is AA suppose to do and is it doing its part .. taking 7k 8K hit surely hurts but that also happen if you chance upon a HE Salvo from a CA or BB or even CL ; what matter though is how is any aerial to surface engagement come to be ... and right now this is heavily skewed in the planes favor. Squad of incoming aerial attack ( torp, bomber or rocket planes ) can put in all their attack waves despite the target solo or within a reasonable group .. routinely so ... yes some planes are down, some planes are damaged, but the AA just do not AA .... And there - is where the problem really lies - the mechanism made it so that the CV player can put in some damage but that at the cost of all others just made targets and their counter action do noting to AA , do nothing to the CV where each and every other engagement means both side had chances to deal damage and hurt hurt each other , reducing their capacity to stay alive where aerial to surface engagement, the CV can hurt you and all you can do is at best down some planes , and the CV is never hurt and of course planes re-gen which mean your damage deal is basically academic,numbers only ; its equating to damaged turrets or torpedo tubes which repair itself over time .. so you got a one sided way of damage dealing and damage taking , and also where the so call AA not only do not hurt the AA, its also incapable to provide real AA ( prevent further attack waves or downright kill the planes ) , now unless you are in a group of 5, 6 AA bubble , you cannot hope to do AA , AA is not about downing how many planes or damaging how many planes, its all about preventing or flat out denying any attack waves to be commenced and of course in this game the AA do nothing of that ... You do not need to be in a DD , you can be in your so call AA Cruiser and still face such misery ..

That I cannot agree more , other than having one less turret and about 5K less HP , everything Kitakaze had, its a equal to Harugumo or some better and simply overall a more enjoyable and engaging boat to play

That Map is always a source for debate .. Cruisers and BB like to lemming and go east beyond those 2 big islands, but IMHO that is not a lemming its just flanking and flanking in a less than ideal manner , by nature of the geography the ship will be protected from the sides doing that and naturally bow on so it always sound great , but also one had to ask what's to be gain from doing that. There is nothing wrong in your mentality to stand your position , @Grygus_Triss , its domination and what is the prime objective in Domination mode ... 1. you want to cap and keep the cap 2. if unable to do no.1 at least keep contesting it and keep a balance between the 2 team , and seeking to create chance and tactical situation where your team can do no.1 3. and if still no.2 is not possible, then at the very least you need to made a stand to deny enemy a cap But of course this all goes against todays meta of people unwilling to take any risk and taking any damage , but only wanting to deal damage .. cause trying to do any of that literally meaning going into firing lane , especially no.3 its literally putting yourself in front of a firing squad ; and on this map its especially so when sitting North of the Map when not supported by team ; people might question yours , I do not , cause even if you go lemming , its not like the group can just PUSH through , it seldom happen on that map when enemy are placed to hold the positions and on that game they do. And an Area free of any resistance is simply taking for the enemy With Radar, CV, all these counter measures today capping by stealth is only going to work if and only if Stealth can be provided and this is not provided by the DD or CL but by the BB and CA forcing enemy off position and again that mean a force push ( and flanking if the geography allow free firing into the area and the other side ) Lemming is a viable strategy but it only work if and only if it can a. keep moving and moving forward b. able to shoot as a group into any opposing force ahead or situated oblique or just happen to prop up somewhere in range c. achieve the objective as listed in above ( no.1 2, & 3 ) else even if the lemming train able to force the enemy back its still just farming and hunting of the ships themselves , and not helping the team and the game , seen too many games a majority of team go lemming, chase enemy group to the end of map and kill them, and still come out a defeat despite enemy having far less survived , cause during all the time of the hunt the enemy had but do no.1 and rack up the points On this map its not a question - to lemming or not, but, to lemming where if do lemming .. and the East Flank usually is at best questionable , even if the lemming Train ultimately break thorough its usually a whole lot of time spend that the Train unable to do anything really supporting the team and you do not put your faith in enemy not exploiting the chance.

WG had nerf Premium before ;of course its not welcomed but that does not mean its not possible . WG decide though on cases like Belfast to simply remove the possibility to acquire the ship but that also infuriate players new to the game after the embargo

Or in plaun language your AA just do not do AA and not just Hood

could it be the SAP ; might be, yes it do 38mm penetration but 12 sec reload !!! Admit though its a fast boat and got almost CL level armor, able to get up to 27.5K HP using SE skill ..still , just cannot imagine it to be effective with such a slow reloading 135 and short range torp Speaking of such, when are we suppose to get Leone, its looking far more interesting than Paolo

likely the same as they had compensate to those already got Graf in 2.0

That is always the problem, a game can be play multiple ways and can be win multiple ways ; often than not , people disagree . Personally so long people do fight , then that's all I can ask of them, but in current meta , people just do not fight, they farm, cause that way they live longer and can farm even more, then come out on top and keep a star , and in Random this manifest in all the stagnant back lane ranged gunnery , there is always a reason not to fight the front , not to fight a battle .. and tragically the game reward such behavior

Hmm ... any of you guys actually professionals or major in Psychology and Behavioral Science !? if not , well effect in play

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I do not say its not borderline OP , I say its not GREAT .. we are talking different criteria here .. yes I would agree its borderline OP , but that does not made it GREAT .. it still need to face a lot of T9/T10 and the spec made it - well - competitive , probably more than Baltimore for traditional Cruiser fight , Baltimore got more utility simply because of the Radar