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  1. the Narvik destroyers

    Badposted Le Fantasque yanno~
  2. the Narvik destroyers

    I would want to run about Mogador but after running with Z-23 after a while, I'm gonna throw this out. I PRESENT TO YOU THE NARVIKS. NOT THIS DESTROYER, YA GIT (Z23 is also one of the potential starter ships you get in Azur Lane) THIS destroyer. Well... at least what US ONI warned people about. Heeeere's Z39~ In regards on how2destroyer in Germany, its been a helluva ride. I mean tell me, how can you destroyer when you're still gagged by Versailles AND the fact that the WNT is still observed along with London I amendments? And if we look at it in the more rational aspect, the Germans loved subs more than their destroyers yet even that's limited. The answer? Deem Versailles bullshit and start chanting "more dakka!" within German shipyards. Course THIS destroyer, the Type 1934 or some might call the Z1's, came out due to that chanting: ... and the Kriegsmarine was rather impressed despite the damn thing being rather big for their taste but WHO CARES? They had a destroyer class to call their own. Now while this came out, some of the seagoing nations were also worrying about these things being theoretically better and started crunching out their own, one notable class were the Le Fantasques and eventually the Mogadors whose purpose is to kill other destroyers with their superlative dakka because 138mm guns HURR were bigger, faster and potentially tougher and this also reached Germany's ears and also started their own crunch on how2destroyer since they were practically free from their self-gagging... to the point that the 1934's got a 1934A and the 1936's had the better 1936A's which are the Narviks and even these had 1936A Mob designations as well as the different 1936B and 1936C. Seriously Germany dafuq with the Matryoshka type naming. I mean LOOK AT THIS Z17 OF THE 1936. its roughly the Leberecht Maass on damn steroids. And here's Z23. The only difference is that the Narviks lost their Bruno/B turret and this isn't including the fact that all of these things are going to be packing light cruiser guns. You read me, LIGHT CRUISER GUNS. You think the French contre-torpilleur destroyers are all that in their destroyer killing? Wait till they see 15cm armed Narviks. The Narviks started from Z23 and ended with Z39, the ones starting from Z23 and ending to Z30 being the 36A's and the ones starting from Z31 to Z39 with the exception of Z35 and Z36 being the 36A Mob's. Don't ask why the Germans stopped naming their DD's after the 1936's tho. The ruddy things were packing 128mm guns in single mount turrets of A-XYZ layouts as their intended guns were 150mm guns which were roughly the same ones used on the Koenigsbergs and the Leipzigs (Nurnberg was Leipzig's sister soo~) in the same layout albeit A turret would pack two of them, some of which actually found their way onto their respective ships within the 1936A's and 1936A Mob's, a pair of quad tube launchers packing 533's, some 37mm's for AA and 20mm's for close-in AA defense along with typical destroyer stuff like depth charge racks and minelayers. These things could run at 36 kts which is decent enough for its period. About the destroyers... The lumpy things weren't exactly hax but they were a culmination of the "more dakka" chant spurred on by the rapid rearming of the Kriegsmarine and they thought they had fixed all of the derpy problems their predecessors had like getting awash resulted in a gigantic derp of the ship's electrical systems or angle of list during a swell, and while they did fix some stuff like improved seakeeping and engine spacing, it kinda didnt help much in regards to the overall grit on the destroyers. the guns are fine and dandy but even here they didnt even bother with something like an enclosed turret, the things being just gun shields and the guns are loaded manually. Not helping that the 15cm guns also had this teeny tiny problem of ammo derp because the magazine on a destroyer can take only so much rounds but if the damn thing's packing that, its believed that its basically enough to thwack a destroyer back to port... paper wise anyway. Oh and lets not forget bout the G7a T1 torpedoes which, apart from being derpy yet very enduring torpedoes, had a really loud acoustic signature meaning ships with strong passive hydro can hear the things coming as well as literally see their white wakes. And they didnt even get to load the exotic 'acoustic torpedoes' the u-boats tested and packed. Z23, Z25, Z29 and Z30 survived the war (I dont count what happened to them afterwards) whilst Z24 got bombed, Z26 got whacked during the attempted piracy against PQ-13, Z27 whacked during Operation Stonewall and Z28 got bombed as well out of the Type 1936A's whilst in the 1936A Mobs, Z31, Z33, Z34, Z37, Z38 and Z39 survived the war (again I don't count what happened to them afterwards) as Z32 died after Haida whacked the crap out of her after colliding with Z37. Gameplay wise, I'm actually liking the Z23 as a destroyer as its roughly "there". My only problem is the rather agonizing stock grind as the 10.8km max range isn't exactly a godsend unless I beef it with AFT. I would have wanted the Z-39 but I got no money unless some kind soul gifts me one but I digress. The hydro is actually formidable on this lumpy thing and the torpedoes don't disappoint with their reasonable range and you can live with the 6.2km max concealment. Derp.exe has crashed.
  3. the Le Fantasque destroyer

    My crappy ISP may have prevented me in sating my ships (and blue bawks duties) gameplay this few months, but at least it won't screw over whats long overdue: badposting about ships. Might badpost about Mogador if I'm that eager to. I PRESENT TO YOU THE LE FANTASQUE Because large destroyers carrying big guns and scoffing at fellow destroyers' speeds make peepees hard apparently. Back in the days, the notions on how2destroyer wasn't exactly clear as day to most and people got raving about what a destroyer is all about. I mean after the "stop spamming dreads" rule that is the Washington Naval Treaty as well as the tonnage enforcement it lugged around, France wasn't exactly waiting around since they had some stuff to laugh like madmen for... I mean THIS destroyer impressed everyone: ... and it ain't helping that nations were also looking at torpedo tech, better ship design via trial n error and improved boiler stuff since designs had to be chopped up in order to be sort of compliant to the Treaty. Then come the French laughing like madmen in the design board with their own versions on how2destroyer. Normally, there are two 'lines' on French destroyer thought: the torpilleur d'escadre and the contre-torpilleur, basically torpedo oriented destroyers and destroyers that kill destroyers. the TE's are the ones that aggressively torpedo big ass ships like cruisers and battleships but if there's a destroyer squadron near the targets, they run away from that while also torpedoing them in the hopes of blasting one or two in order for the CT's to move in and just pulverize the crap out of them WHILE TORPEDOING THEM as well if they get to optimal range. Now this notion is presented because the contre-torpilleurs have big guns (and they can not lie), and I mean big since what madman crams 138's on destroyers? the CT's that's what. Oh and did I forget to mention the CT's also have the potential of chasing destroyers and gunning them down with speed? The first of these were the Jaguars but the most gritty and fastest ones are the Le Fantasques, THIS destroyer being very most notable because GLORIOUS 45.1 KTS SPEED DURING SHAKEDOWN HURR. Mogador and her sisters can't be gritty enough as they manly death'd at Toulon to give the Germans the giant middle finger. You guys already saw an example of a torpilleur d'escadre and played one before: Cyclone of the Bourrasque class during the Dunkirk evacuation and to those that bought Aigle, congratulations, you are playing the lead ship of the Aigle contre-torpilleur destroyers. BEHOLD, LE TERRIBLE. and yes I shed manly tears when I saw this DD, stats be damned I WANT ONE. Lets talk about big sister Le Fantasque. Contrary to looks, this destroyer and her sisters are legitimately thicc. No really, they are. Apparently the Vauquelins need more beef and hax and the most ideal solution is to start building a destroyer while chanting "stronger, faster, better, tougher", the end result of those shenanigans being the Le Fantasques. The destroyers got better 138's (longer ones to be exact compared to the 138.6/40 aboard the Aigle as they were 138.6/50 and had better charges) in single mount AB-Q-XY's, some 37mm close-in AA guns, 13mm machine guns, 550mm torpedoes with nine tubes divided to three each, one in the aft on the centerline and the others on both starboard and portside as well as depth charge racks which were within the stern (the depth charges literally exited her ass in two separate racks), later got some 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons as well as some radar and sensor hax after sitting idly in the US. The damn things could run at 40 kts nominal but as it stood, 43 was just full-on flank for the things, and this is saying much on Terrible running naked during shakedown which made her reach 45.1 kts and to this day, no ship can still catch up to her. most of her space is just gritty engine. And boy there were big... not just the guns... they were larger than the contemporary destroyer. I mean because the madmen made these monsters of destroyers without batting an eyelash, its not really surprising yet weird at the same time that skubs had to reclass em as "light cruisers". yes, LIGHT CRUISERS. let that sink in. About the guns... Normally, being destroyers whose single mode of existence during surface warfare is to rip apart other destroyers, getting dakka was fine, but somehow the French wanted RPC (Remote Power Control) where the gunner with the rangefinder slaves the guns to where he's looking at up top but for strange and derpy reasons, it didnt exactly quite work out with destroyers which is a shame since the Fantasques were quite decent gun platforms that didnt list a lot in rough swells but at least the things were working in Richelieu's 155's during Dakar so there's that. Running out from the Lorient Arsenal, she was just doing some runs (and showing off her blistering speed) and then some when Germany steamrolled on Poland and the threat of red flagged raiders loomed so she and Le Terrible decided to become privateers (Jean Bart and Surcouf shed manly tears in their graves) and actually plastered as well as capture merch ships and was part of the forces that tried to whack Graf Spee. It wasn't helping that the Germans were also beating the hell out of the hardened French units on the ground so they were placed at Dakar along with Richelieu when a Brit task force was rolling towards the port in order to drop a gigantic STOP in their faces since DeGaulle believed that he can convince the garrison there to join the Brits since the whacking at Mels el Kebir was apparently a big oopsie on the Brits' part via Force H apparently and be sailing as part of the Allied fleet and things went sideways... A LOT. I mean bad weather was getting in the way and add the fact everybody was just poking shells at each other without gritty effect and Richelieu was still not exactly combat ready but a turret did respond to Barham and Resolution after getting hit while Le Fantasque and another destroyer was running smokescreens to cover the more tougher units at Dakar which included a couple of cruisers as the local station but because GLORIOUS SPEED, she was bracketed but goddamn didn't even suffer a brutal hit. Torch happened and both her and Le Terrible went to Brooklyn for a facelift that gave them a load of stuff like ASDIC, surveillance radar, better AA dakka than what they had, and overhauls and sent them to be Richelieu's aides as she herself was in there with turret B practically blown up because lolshells. Then they reignited their privateer blood and started wreaking havoc on German convoy lanes, one of them getting rather daring to plaster the crap out of the convoy by doing what they were made to do: get in and plaster the crap out of enemy ships and get out like a boss as well as provide gun drive-by's. Ran later in Indochina and eventually rested after a long and crazy run. Now people might say "lol France has a navy?" and shens like that but if there's one thing their grit carried on, it was the Le Fantasques. Sure it wasn't as manly tear inducing as Taffy 3, the Benson Laffey getting in the deep at Guadalcanal or the crazy game of tag the convoy at Ormoc, but these destroyers served their tenure. Derp.exe is over. I'd like to thank my friend for letting me borrow Jordan's book about FRDD's
  4. Azur Lane Captain Voice Demo

    Thank you kindly~
  5. USS Pennsylvania (BB-38)

    I would have bothered to raid for Nevada but I have this feeling Old Falling Apart Grand Lady of the Fleet needs the love. And its a long time since I badposted I PRESENT TO YOU USS PENNSYLVANIA (BB-38) ... not THIS Pennsylvania (not bad, Azur Lane) ... well I can understand Jeanex/November's Pacific (SOMEONE PLEASE GRAB V1-3 OF PACIFIC PLS) THIS Pennsylvania. Well what do you expect for Arizona's big sis? Apart from the engineering hax that was Nevada, it could be said that the Pennsylvania class were a logical step on how2battleship by the Americans and I must say, for a Standard, she's... well... "plain". I mean she's a standard dread, appearance wise. Has two more guns than Nevada, also uses the All or Nothing as the Nevada, has the same oil fired engine type as Nevada, uses the same barrel and feed system, if not improved, as Nevada.... she's basically filling what the dread lacked, maybe more. Pennsylvania has about 14 inches of belt, 3 inches of deck which kinda increased to nearly 6 inches after SURPRISE BOMBSECKS that was Pearl Harbor, about 15 inches thickness max on the turrets and 16 inches of conning tower. Dakka wise, she had twelve 14 inch guns, an array of 5 inch secondary guns (note that these secondaries are for hot ship to ship action), some lumpy 3 inch guns and submerged torpedo tubes, and had some bits replaced and added like Hotchkiss saluting guns, the torpedo tubes removed because putting submerged torpedo tubes on dreads is a stupid idea later on, and had MOAR AA guns added like Bofors, Oerlikons and a few DP 5 inch guns. The lumpy dread could run at 22 kts flat which was standard for a dread of her type back then but... due to her new oil combustion bit, it was getting rather tedious to run after her with a tanker just to bunker up than coal but hey, TECHNOLOGY HURR. Speaking of tech she also was a recipient of radar hax early on... although in her case, its not the same as the '43 onwards radar where ships go "I know where you are, how big you are, and I can accurately math my guns to where you are" but rather its basically "I know where you are" and honestly, for a venerable dread such as her, its more than enough. About Pennsy's facelift.... The hyperboloid masts were as she was built with and while there aint anything wrong about the lumpy superstructure, because WNT ratification, they needed to update their ships that were still able and worthy which Pennsy was slated for and replaced her hyperboloid masts with the typical tripod masts which she and her little sister were given. As she was in 30's. Note the solid tripod masts. She got her second facelift which removed the aft mast and gave her a more "proper"-ish dread look: ... that makes her look like a Brit battleship from afar. A Royal Sovereign/Revenge amirite? After the usual shakedown, she was slated to join as an element of the American fleet operating with the Brits but because of her being newer, she had to stay behind and start training her bits, ranging from sailing and gunnery to outright positional and you could say her tenure was rather... not that uneventful since she was operating as a lumpy battleship, had the occasional overhauls and upguns, sailing as a tub for the Pacific Fleet where she was to sit her sorry hull at Pearl Harbor and finally was slated to be one of the battleships with the new iteration of radar hax which was... for their time. You already know what happened when the IJN decided to yell out "aloha" to the Americans at the naval base... Two destroyers near her got decked bad while she got some hurt herself. If memory serves, Pennsylvania was one of the responding AA fire when the gun teams were scrambling on the deck to man empty AA guns to start filling the sky with lead and she got hurt when one of her mounts, an AA mount or was it a secondary, blew up from a bomb strike and iono if it was a thing or not, she was also expending rounds to cover Nevada which was trying to run away (the lumpy battleship should have steamed past the stricken battleship row at this point) from the aerial assault in drydock and after some operational checks as well as repairs, went back stateside to a heavy duty shipyard to begin repairs and overhauls. After a while, she looked like this: .. on the stages of her refit which gave her some more room to cram in sensors and stuff as well as a place to chuck in more AA guns. She spent most of her time letting her guns sing at shore bombardment and it wasn't even funny to see the after-effects of her handiwork as she'd pummel the living shit out of the area. She nearly got torpedoed and while she didnt exactly get torped in Pearl, thank god for drydock, what do you think an old yet refitted dread would go on when she was torpedoed? Also was one of the bombardiers standing by for offshore artillery by forward observers and she wasn't with her clumsiness: she collided with a destroyer(?) and a transport once during the hectic maneuvers and she earned one of her nicknames, "Old Falling Apart", when she shelled Guam so intensely and so hard that she was starting to chip off metal and stuff falling about that the men thought she was shooting herself to death from all the ordnance she lobbed, in fact, she would likely be the one to nearly expend her ammo during the pre-landing bombardments than any other so much that any standing hard target, some skub hiding in a cliff face or hardened bunker, would think twice even staying. She started to show her age after some incursions of running back for repairs apart from bunkering and resupply and she was one of the battleships at Leyte who shore teams counted on (I forgot her callsign during Leyte) since a volley from Pennsylvania hitting ground targets can make them unexist and it was during the Leyte operation she got attached to Oldendorf's fleet which had the venerable Ghosts of Pearl Harbor. Sadly... she didn't exactly get to fire since she was behind the line as well as it was rather hard to acquire firing solution in the dark with older equipment and unlike West Virginia which had better gear that zeroed in on Yamashiro earlier which the others used as base point for their own firing solutions, Pennsy was forced to remain silent because firing obstruction AND it was hard trying to zero in the night with her older gear. She got a taste of aerial assault of torpedo bombers after her facelift and had some bit on guns... inherited from Oklahoma. She broke one of her screws and ran back home limping under one screw until she was decent to fight again... and after the war ended, she was slated for the Atomic Bomb tests to see if a battleship can into surviving nukes. Technically speaking, the battleship survived but the projected crew are boiled alive so there's that... and then Baker test... which kinda ended her as she listed and capsized... but not without railing in eight battle stars to her name... not a bad set for a dread her age. In-game wise, I expect her to be tier 6 as her sister Arizona albeit her 1943-45 is the final hull with decent rudder shift and turn radius. Her guns ain't stellar but they're enough to whack the crap out of someone and should be feeding the same improved 14 inch shells as New Mexico and Tennessee . The AA suite aboard should be sound enough to be at least Texas level although its likely Pennsy will be a reward ship, same as Shinonome. Derp.exe is over
  6. RM Andrea Doria

    Its a shame they had to rely on star shells for night combat. The Bredas were decent enough but without a director, the best they could do is intense AA fire. The only thing limiting the Italians afaik is the fact the Brits made the Med their own personal pond and only the Russians were eager to talk to them about how2ship.
  7. Unique and weird ship designs

    There are a few weird ones during design studies. for example, the Tillmans were such.
  8. Inertia Fuze chips off 3% off your chance to burn people but if shooting thinly armored areas like the prow, it'll do something i.e. Cleveland with Inertia Fuze can somehow lolpen 32mm of plating. Oh the horror of DE Groz still is fresh in me mind...
  9. WE SHOULD ALL HAVE MAG DETS! You get a mag det, YOU get a mag det, EVERYONE GETS MAG DETS!
  10. [PH] Wargaming Gift Grab

    tfw not enough runs to get a hoody or a shirt oh well grats to the winners~
  11. HMAS Sydney (D48)

    I dunno if its in the bit but there are some engagements that make you go "dafuq bro" in most cases like how Renown and her retinue of destroyers forcing the Scharnhorst Twins to run like lil children off Lofoten, how Gneisenau managed to ninja right under Rodney's nose or Graf Spee scuttling because of the threat of a bigger force that was to greet her when she attempted to ninja vanish, but one particular yet should be still in hot water was of the light cruiser Sydney dying from a pirate that also had to scuttle because she was so messed up by said light cruiser retaliating. I have no idea if Sydney going over is a sensitive subject for AU guys but got interested in it after trying to find British heavy cruiser plans. I PRESENT TO YOU HMAS SYDNEY (D48) GLORIOUS LEANDER Well, if anything, this thing was one of the modified Leanders as people have seen on Perth so she roughly has the same sort of bits all Leanders had as well as the modified ones so she's not exactly a unique thing to behold, but boy did she serve, and well at that. They also can into seasoned skills after the Med Originally named Phaeton, the Australians were at the time wanting to grab some new ships from the UK and got Phaeton, which was still in the slipway and already had a keel and a solid hull, to roll with the RAN and got renamed as Sydney (to be fair, the AU skubs DID get that weird looking but overall effective battlecruiser at one point in WW1) and after shakedown, served with them and she should have had friction in the Australian government because she be a Brit ship instead of building a ship keel up in their own slipways despite the fact they actually managed to grab a light cruiser nearly finished and not like having the Crown go "you need cruisers? k we'll let you have this slightly battle hardened ship. no worries, right?" this time around. The cruiser had the basic gist aboard: protected with nearly 2 inches of belt and plating, a 3 inch protective walling for the squishy bits like engines and magazines, and was armed with 6 inch guns in AB-XY dual configuration, a bunch of 100mm guns, some HMG's and GPMG's for close-in AA and could run at nearly 33 knots. If anything, she's a Leander on slight hax but a Leander nonetheless. I could have sworn there was a model for Sydney once and not just a Perth colored to look like Sydney... Well after shakedown, she had some peaceful runs and hair raising suspense with the Royal Navy but her crew and officers are all Australian now and she was with her heavy cruiser colleague HMAS Australia of the County class and then finally went to Australia for port calls and training sailors on how to cruiser. When WarDec happened, she was going on patrols, joined heavy cruisers on trying to find Graf Spee, had the occasional repairs and resupply and went back to sentry duty by patrolling and was also peeled off for convoy escort a couple of times when she was asked to go to the Mediterranean via the Suez along with other ships, and was usually sticking as part of the unit where Warspite is after linking up with the 'Scrap Iron Flotilla' because Sir Cunningham wanted her close by (candidate for Legendary Commander plox). Had a lot of action there from blasting ports, escorting units, playing tag with Italian ships and got a 'mild' hit near the forward funnel during Cape Spada and more sea stalking apart from rescuing sailors which also got her snagged with full honors "Mediterranean" and left with a really gritty crew after their cruise in the sun compounded with gunfire, plane and fast craft spam, and orders being shoved down their throats. How to light cruiser Australian style. She went home in order to spread the grit of veterancy as well as resume to sentry duty since Perth was taking over for her and to accumulate manly experience for the sailors when she encountered... ... her. Auxilliary cruiser Kormoran. Now as you know, the Axis navies, most notably the German Kriegsmarine, had adopted commerce raiding as a form of harassing attack and hoped to starve out vital stuff needed for the war effort, and while u-boats were playing pin the depth charge on the Atlantic, there are the really ninja surface ships like Kormoran which had guns hidden in the hull so that they could yell out "SURPRISE, DUMMKOPF!" at any unsuspecting enemy or a merch ship. Now blasting unarmed merch or civvy ships is against the rules and may constitute to war crime, there's a sort of loophole in regards to armed merch ships, however Kormoran was aggressively using that loophole... and Sydney got trolled so bad its not even funny. Note that perfidy got a nasty no-no in the Hague on how to war but pirates didnt give a shit about what was in or what was not... to a degree. Perfidy is bad, mmkay? It makes you look like an untrustworthy asshat who would turn on friends on a drop of a hat. piracy like a battleship appearing over the horizon and shooting you is one thing, getting close enough to blast a target while disguising as a civvy is another K in signal flags. Raise it when hailing another vessel if you want to establish comms with em. Sydney was asking for ID and the unknown vessel responded as the Dutch Straat Malaka as Kormoran attempted to ninja vanish away from the light cruiser and even tried to delay comms by feigning confusion by raising flags, but when the light cruiser was getting too curious and too close as the alleged Dutch freighter was unable to give out a secret signal, she removed her protective covers on her guns below the hull and suddenly blasted Sydney. For all its worth Sydney was whacked considerably when she was attempting to run but was fruitless as the cruiser sank afterwards as she did peel off while Kormoran, which was also damaged from that because Sydney retaliated when she was blasted upon, had to scuttle after that engagement... and what happened afterwards contained copious amounts of derp, rage, questions of 'why's and 'how's and dawning of the threat of such pirates operating in territorial waters. They found the German survivors of Kormoran and grilled them so hard with questions on whatever the hell happened to Sydney and they could only run with the fact they just told them they blasted the living shit out of the light cruiser first, and it blasted THEM in turn as it disappeared over the horizon after their ship was also messed up. The derp being "omg Japan was in it" and some weirdly absurd conspiracy theories on how the ship sank. They finally found where Sydney was after a long while... ... and based on the testaments on the German sailors, it wasnt that far off. They tried to find the ships back then but to no avail until a dedicated team found em, and the light cruiser had shown where the Kormoran's guns hit and it was not a pretty sight, although it did solidify some theories on why Sydney sank. In-game wise, Perth is basically the rep for the modified Leanders so I find no sound reason to place Sydney in the same tier but if what-if's were present, then Sydney should NOT have the same smoke screen behavior as Perth and have her guns reload at 6s with the same ergonomics as Perth but with better range of 14km Derp.exe has crashed.
  12. the Normandie battleship

    I can't draw worth a damn so I'll just badpost like an idiot because honestly, the damn dread piqued my interest due to the contest so plis gibe Roma _(:3」∠)_ loljk, but really, the battleship piqued interest since the design is sort of 'atypical' of 'standard' dread design like Queen Liz, New Mexico or Bayern (Fuso dont count because she took a different approach on how to dread) PAINT HER LIKE ONE OF THE FRENCH GIRLS Now in response to the French being mocked as having a 'piss poor navy' and 'lolships', it should be known they did had a boner for naval bits and they did had a formidable navy, and when HMS Dreadnought came in, the scramble to who can be gud@dreads started happening with them stroking said boners so furiously that we may only have a glimpse on what in flying hell they pulled out of the brainstorm in front of the design table that were practical and feasible and not just a wet dream of a designer striving to make the Marine Nationale OP. Well... to the French, they were more worried about the guys over at the Albion sipping tea like the magnificent bastards that they are secretly since GLORIOUS BATTLESHIPS can into their coast at any given time and that would simply not do... and add Italy deciding to stroke their navyboner furiously as well brought it a necessity to git gud in regards to battleships, one of which was this lumpy dread. I PRESENT TO YOU THE NORMANDIE. Because dreads will be dreads, even if you give them a "what-if" fit. EXCEPT GIULIO CESARE. Old gal got a facelift that compares her to a post-dread. Rollo would shed manly tears at this. For starters, the preceding Bretagne were considered really reasonable for French dreads in terms of built and in the day but as the dread race started to pick up, even France wanted to update its capital ship list and so decided to go to drawing plenty of "what-if's" in regards to battleship, and one must say, they had some of the most interesting yet strange designs. Here's one of the proposals... and here's another. Honestly, midships turret is just lol on a dread. Now sure its practically a solid idea to bring more guns to bear but the space for that should be best used for new boilers and engines. The Italians who had midship turrets due to their AB-P-XY dreads like the Conte di Cavour and Andrea Doria had it removed because it was, basically, a rather inconvenient thing and they could cram better hax with all that space. That aside, it was already in the works that they were to keel the things to augment their navy with better battleships and so had worked on the class, the first one being Normandie herself, followed by her sisters Flandre, Gascogne, Languedoc and Bearn. Well, Bearn wasnt exactly a battleship when she was finished and was reformatted to a carrier halfway without receiving her fit, and this is saying much that the Normandie didnt even serve and were scrapped afterwards because the French economy was still weak and fielding a crapton of battleships costs upkeep that burns the national treasury and nobody wants another ragequit that leads to revolution, now do they? Normandie had an impressive 12 inch belt, 13 inches of turret, a reasonable deck whose thickness I forgot and 13 inches for the conning tower. The offensive assets slated were a dozen 340mm guns in three quad turrets on the A-P-X layout, some 139mm secondaries, Hotchkiss 47mm guns for its AA suite and 18 inch submerged torpedo tubes because dreads back then had em. The lumpy dread could be able run at 21-22 knots so its by all means very reasonable. Oh and Bearn had improved shafts and number of screws which meant 4 of the things instead of the usual three. Hooray, I guess? About the guns... yeeeah... Since the damn things weren't exactly fitted out prior to scrapping, the guns were allocated to the Army and they found their bits there, the 340mm guns being used as rail guns (to those that rage at rail guns being impractical, its actually a very sound idea of artillery that can roll around in tracks since the only thing thats limiting the accuracy is the rails themselves. you cant traverse the cradle the gun is on like a warship turret but you cant deny the fact that being shelled by a big ass caliber battleship gun on traincar is outright scary), the 139mm guns were crammed to coastal turrets and some should be reportedly used by the army as their better field artillery. Seriously, for guns built within 1910-1915, they've got good reliability to still be firing even in WW2 when those that do have them, especially how the Germans 'borrowed' some, used em to degrees. The quad gun turret is basically a big ass turret with a thick divider that separated each pair since the reasoning for that was, apart from saving weight, the prospect of cramming more dakka on a battleship without compromising weight or structural integrity, if either starboard or port pair were to be incapacitated but the turret itself can still traverse, it wont lose all its firepower in a single direct hit... well... at least that was the prospect since this quad turret concept practically being 2+2 any way you look at it went on to post-dreads like Dunkerque and Richelieu. If you want quad turret that was there, the KGV's attempted that. Cue Victor Frankenstein shouting "live! LIIIIIVVE!". Sadly, they actually floated out but were too late to see any extensive action, let alone the glorious commissioning and fitting out that culminated in the shakedown cruise because if they did, THIS would probably be queuing up with them on how to git gud@battleships: The Austro-Hungarian Tegetthoff dread (I'm lazy to info raid about this ship tho) which would have proven to be a real troublesome thing had she faced sheer combat. Jokes aside, I wish the players who unleashed their inner artscum a good luck and to those that want to have a hand in painting French girls, why not give it a go? morinaga Richelieu for motivation (seriously, the artist makes shipgirls into goddamn models) Derp.exe -debug -modredact has now crashed.
  13. the Akagi carrier

    When I sorta said technically, I did mean the layout that was prospected on Amagi. the strange ass AB-PQ-XY and the general sleek design build that did reflect on Tosa and Kii's builds as the Kongos were still, back then, intended to what they were to do before getting their shit reformatted so Amagi is sort of there as the gap before Tosa and Kii but if we speak of by right of keel, Amagi has no place on the battleship line so to say (its rather interesting they used the Amagi rather than prospecting a what-if for Tosa as the tier 8) .. now I'm rather curious on what the name of a reformatted Kii would be like if they had went and proceeded to keel her and then turned her to a full on carrier
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